Ceres Nomenclature, Feature names approved for use on Ceres |
Ceres Nomenclature, Feature names approved for use on Ceres |
Jul 7 2015, 07:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3233 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
16 craters on Ceres now have official names
http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/SearchRe...er%2C%20craters The crater with the main bright spots is now named Occator I'm working on a quick map with the names -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Jul 7 2015, 07:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3233 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
And here's that map with names (the mosaic map by Steve Albers)
So Spot 5 crater is Occator. Spot 1 crater is Haulani. -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Jul 7 2015, 07:46 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 13-November 14 From: Norway Member No.: 7310 |
I guess that makes them the Occator spots. Could the spots themselves receive a name, as an albedo feature or something?
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Jul 7 2015, 09:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 148 Joined: 9-August 11 From: Mason, TX Member No.: 6108 |
16 craters on Ceres now have official names http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/SearchRe...er%2C%20craters The crater with the main bright spots is now named Occator I'm working on a quick map with the names If they were to add Exeter and Interocitor as names I think I would turn blue with nerdy excitement. -------------------- --
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Jul 7 2015, 11:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3419 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Member No.: 15 |
Trying to get my head around how to pronounce the Spot 5 crater, I googled the name. Lots and lots of results identifying Occator as the God of the Harrow (or hoeing, in modern parlance), whose spirit was invoked by priests of Ceres, but very little with useful pronunciation guides.
What little I found suggests it is pronounced ah-CATE-ore. Not OCK-a-tore. -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Jul 7 2015, 11:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Rome - Italy Member No.: 7482 |
it's Strange. Im don't result occator in roman divinitY. ...
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Jul 7 2015, 11:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1583 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Vermont Member No.: 530 |
I think there's a fair chance the first syllable is a long o and the penultimate is stressed.
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Jul 8 2015, 12:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1074 Joined: 21-September 07 From: Québec, Canada Member No.: 3908 |
And in Latin, the "a" should be pronounced as in "cat", and not as in "cake".
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Jul 8 2015, 12:39 AM
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In the Latin (occātor) the first syllable is a short o but the second is a long a, so the accent falls on the penult (/oˈkaː.tor/). The traditional English pronunciation would then be /ə(ʊ)ˈkeiː.tər/, or either oh-KAY-ter or uh-KAY-ter; a close analogue would be the first syllable of "Olympus" and the next two syllables as in "crater" but without the 'r.'
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Jul 8 2015, 12:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 913 Joined: 15-June 09 From: Lisbon, Portugal Member No.: 4824 |
In the Latin (occātor) the first syllable is a short o but the second is a long a, so the accent falls on the penult (/oˈkaː.tor/). Thank you all for the posts on Ceres mythology and name pronounciation, I had no idea about the "helper gods" so I went searching. As usual, the Wikipedia proved to be a good starting point. My native language is Portuguese, a Latin-based language. However I never learned Latin, so I had some fun digging around for the most likely pronunciation: it turns out there are four competing ones. Here is a link to WHEELOCK'S LATIN, a very reputed source. So the classic latin pronunciation (I hope I got it right ) seems to be very close to my "gut feeling": Occator.mp3 ( 46.17K ) Number of downloads: 1457 Fernando |
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Jul 8 2015, 05:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1583 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Vermont Member No.: 530 |
In the Latin (occātor) the first syllable is a short o but the second is a long a, so the accent falls on the penult (/oˈkaː.tor/). The traditional English pronunciation would then be /ə(ʊ)ˈkeiː.tər/, or either oh-KAY-ter or uh-KAY-ter; a close analogue would be the first syllable of "Olympus" and the next two syllables as in "crater" but without the 'r.' "oh-KAY-ter" is what I meant by long o on the first syllable. It seems there's some wiggle in Latin pronunciation to declare the first syllable "open" and therefore a long vowel.... but I don't really know what makes a syllable "open." I *think* it's open if you're not saying ock-kate-er, and instead drop the consonant from the first syllable, opening it. But that depends on what the Romans said. |
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Jul 8 2015, 05:51 PM
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"oh-KAY-ter" is what I meant by long o on the first syllable. It seems there's some wiggle in Latin pronunciation to declare the first syllable "open" and therefore a long vowel.... but I don't really know what makes a syllable "open." I *think* it's open if you're not saying ock-kate-er, and instead drop the consonant from the first syllable, opening it. But that depends on what the Romans said. I think jekbradbury's suggestion /oˈkaː.tor/ is a very good one with the first vowel as when someone say 'oh' in short beginning with a flat 'o' and no embellishment. But I'd like to add that the a be "open" in this case mean no diphthong to the vowel, which is something English / American speakers often have a very hard time not doing, a longer 'o' and certainly not followed by 'kate' but 'ká' then 'torr'. Yes I got a "leetle" insight into latin due to a small insignificant involvement with biologists that are so snobbish they still use the Latin language. =) |
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Jul 8 2015, 05:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1583 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Vermont Member No.: 530 |
If I were a planetary scientist, I probably wouldn't want to butcher fossae and chasma and mare and all the rest either. Luckily, I can just write them on the internets.
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Jul 8 2015, 09:53 PM
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I've mentioned it before and will do so again here now that there is a Ceres Nomenclature thread....
I hope the powers-that-be consider the name 'Corn Palace' for the large mountain. Even though the name sounds a bit corny (no pun intended ), it is the name of an agricultural festival in Mitchell, South Dakota (which I think would satisfy the nomenclatural rules for Cerean non-crater features), and both the mountain and festival's name-sake structure have imposing edifices. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_Palace |
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Jul 9 2015, 09:47 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Rome - Italy Member No.: 7482 |
I am not satisfied with some names .. :-/
I hope in a Fossae name Like "Caereris Mundus", a Fossae that was open only three days a year in ancient Rome.. |
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Jul 13 2015, 05:57 PM
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There is a new name for Ceres. The large impact basin shown in this image is now named Urvara. This is the updated map:
-------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Jul 14 2015, 03:04 AM
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Urvara hmm, not Finnish unless misspelled, so my bet it's from India.
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Jul 14 2015, 12:14 PM
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Something here about the name "Urvara" meaning "fertile earth" in Hindi.
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Jul 25 2015, 11:52 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: 31-May 05 From: Bloomington, Minnesota Member No.: 397 |
Another new name, Kait. Looks like it's marking the prime meridian.
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Jul 25 2015, 01:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 13-November 14 From: Norway Member No.: 7310 |
The IAU
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Sep 24 2015, 02:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3233 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
More features have been named. I'll make a new name map later this morning, but one highlight is that
-------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Sep 24 2015, 03:02 PM
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As can be seen on the map I posted above (which has now been updated), the named mountain is in the north pole area. The big mountain is still unnamed.
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Sep 24 2015, 03:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3233 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
That wasn't updated when I saw it this morning. Well, I guess that's one less thing for me to do this morning
It's odd that they haven't given that mountain a name. Maybe they are trying to understand more about it before giving it one? -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Sep 24 2015, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (VP) More features have been named. I'll... Is this from the linky in the above 25 July post? Just downloaded trhe .pdf and don;t see an new names. My informal name for THE mountain is "Tall Mountain" and my formal-informal name is "Ylla Mons". Because I could. --Bill -------------------- |
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Sep 24 2015, 03:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3233 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
These were names approved a few days ago. Here's a link to the USGS page:
http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/Page/CERES/target From there you can get lists of the nomenclature approved for Ceres, including the new names (all the ones approved on September 21), as well as a map, which as Habukaz pointed out, has been updated to include the newly named features. -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Oct 10 2015, 06:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 13-November 14 From: Norway Member No.: 7310 |
Didn't notice it until now: the big mountain is now officially named Ahuna Mons. The map in my previous link has been updated.
http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/news/nomencla...atures-on-ceres -------------------- |
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Dec 13 2016, 08:57 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 13-November 14 From: Norway Member No.: 7310 |
The bright spots in Occator have now been named. As usual, the PDF map has been updated.
The central bright spot has been name Cerealia Facula while the eastern cluster of bright spots has been named Vinalia Faculae. Also, Ysolo Mons has been renamed Yamor Mons for some reason. -------------------- |
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Dec 13 2016, 03:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 14-April 06 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 745 |
I was curious about the name change and found this from someone who goes by the name Mark Dominus.
The Universe of Discourse "I contacted the United States Geological Survey to point out the hoax, and on Wednesday I got the following news from their representative: Thank you for your email alerting us to the possibility that the name Ysolo, as a festival name, may be fictitious. After some research, we agreed with your assessment. The IAU and the Dawn Team discussed the matter and decided that the best solution was to replace the name Ysolo Mons with Yamor Mons, named for the corn/maize festival in Ecuador. The WGPSN voted to approve the change. Thank you for bringing the matter to our attention." |
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Dec 13 2016, 06:44 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 13-November 14 From: Norway Member No.: 7310 |
Ouch. I see now that someone questioned its existence already back in October last year. The Gazetteer page for Ysolo Mons also seems to use an entry on some kind of blog as reference, which would be a rather bad idea. I wonder if there are other places in the solar system named after hoaxes.
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Dec 19 2016, 10:41 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Rome - Italy Member No.: 7482 |
you have an image of " Yamor Mons " ?
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Jan 25 2021, 06:31 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: 13-October 09 From: Olympus Mons Member No.: 4972 |
I guess this can fit here since it involves mapping. I made a color 32K map of Ceres from LAMO/HAMO/ and SO data found in the PDS (for some reason the USGS has yet to publish the LAMO map on Astropedia)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/60012030@N02/...157718028081858 Preview below (had to be divided into 4 sections since 2 was too big of picture for Flickrs 200 mb limit. -------------------- "Thats no moon... IT'S A TRAP!"
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