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ustrax
post Sep 29 2008, 03:13 PM
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Opportunity is getting ready to embark on her most extraordinary journey, a true rover epic.
As information regarding how to win the distance are being collected here, and the emotional last views from Victoria Crater are being discussed here, I thought about creating a new thread that will surely become an obligatory stop as the tall peaks and other features of Endeavour start to rise in the horizon.
Here we will be able to discuss the location of features seen from the distance, references that will help us understanding better what we are seing and that will, fortunately, feed our spirit across the long sail across the Meridiani sandwaves.

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I give it a kick with this navcam image, comparing it with Astro0's original (beautiful...) image:
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I'm sure James Canvin will correct me... rolleyes.gif



EDITED: I can't resist...I tried! I honestly tried, but it is stronger than me...so many features ahead and not a single name?! tongue.gif
Seriously, at Victoria we had features named after places visited by the vessel, and now for Endeavour? Assuming that Oppy will succeed on her quest will the mission keep the same policy, of naming places after Endeavour's tour? If so, there may be some names in common with Victoria... unsure.gif
While we are ready to leave the port once more I remembered that we could start naming, internally, (in order to have catchier landmark references... rolleyes.gif ) these features, as they loom in the horizon, after the ship's crew.
We could follow the order presented here.
Let me just edit the image up there... rolleyes.gif


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post Jun 23 2009, 02:32 AM
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Speaking of shorelines, I'm sure most of you know that there is yet another recent paper indicating the presence of lakes on Mars. Here's the link:

http://www.colorado.edu/news/r/7e9c22ec0cd...4ed2e29f16.html
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post Jun 23 2009, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE (glennwsmith @ Jun 22 2009, 06:32 PM) *
Speaking of shorelines, I'm sure most of you know that there is yet another recent paper indicating the presence of lakes on Mars. Here's the link:

http://www.colorado.edu/news/r/7e9c22ec0cd...4ed2e29f16.html



It's a fault scarp. (see my post in "Earthlike Mars")

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post Jun 27 2009, 09:27 PM
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For fans of Iazu crater here's a Google Earth overlay of moc frame m1001349. Attached File  Iazu_Crater__MOC_Image_m1001349_.kml ( 646bytes ) Number of downloads: 525

It's not sourced from a map projected version of the image so the registration isn't as great as it could be but when crudely draped over topography data it does give an OK overview of the differences between the older, shallower Endeavour and the younger pedestal crater to the south. Check out that deep stack of sediments at Iazu's north rim!


Why not use a proper map projected version of the image? Because then I'd either have to put up with a conspicuous frame or set the frame to be transparent. Doing the latter would require altering the image file, so I would no longer be able to link to an image already available online!
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post Jun 28 2009, 08:19 AM
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I think we can barely see a new part of Endeavour in these navcams just on the left of "Cook":
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...G6P1994L0M1.JPG
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...NVP1994L0M1.JPG

Waiting for pancams.
I think a peak north of "Cook" could match (far rim wink.gif or east rim) . Any idea Rui or James ?
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post Jun 28 2009, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE (Bill @ Jun 28 2009, 09:19 AM) *
I think a peak north of "Cook" could match (far rim wink.gif or east rim) . Any idea Rui or James ?


I think you are right, there does appear to be a faint hint of a feature 6 - 8 degrees from the north end of Cook. Measuring the angles I think it correlates to this on the HRSC image:

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In Google Earth this does look to be the next highest feature on the east rim after Cook.

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