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elakdawalla
post Dec 14 2010, 08:35 PM
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I can't believe I haven't started a dedicated thread on this before now!! I wanted to open a discussion on the Planetary Society's plans to develop a website called AmateurSpaceImages.com, a place that will collect amateur-processed space images into one place that is easy to browse and search for great pictures, and from which you'll be able to share them easily via social networks. The organization of the site will be based on Photojournal, which is itself based on the way the PDS structures space data -- all images will be filed under the "target" and "mission" and "instrument," plus there will be image titles, captions, and correct credits; plus there'll be tags and a search feature. The site is currently under development and is planned for launch early next year (hopefully March, if the schedule doesn't slip). We're now raising funds from the community to support its development.

Some of you have been emailing me privately with questions; I think it'd be neater (and less effort for me smile.gif ) to have that discussion in the open, on this thread. If for some reason you'd like your question to be anonymous, you can email me and I'll post it here. Since this is a website we are creating especially for the community that has grown up in and around UMSF, I hope you will participate in its formation!


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post Dec 14 2010, 09:01 PM
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Since I'm one of the private e-mailers mentioned above (and a potential financial backer), I'll post my questions out in the open:

How will the images be selected?  (open submission, single admin, or
panel of judges, or invite only?)

Submitted only from UMSF members? Or non-UMSF members as well?

Is the initial start up fee ($5400) a one-time deal?  Or will there
be an annual maintenance fee as well?

Finally, how will this be significantly different from a flickr group pool?


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post Dec 14 2010, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE (Juramike @ Dec 14 2010, 01:01 PM) *
How will the images be selected?  (open submission, single admin, or panel of judges, or invite only?)

Anyone will be able to submit an image through a form, from which they'll also be asked to provide information about the image including title, caption with information about what processing was done, data processing credit, and information on target/instrument etc.

Submissions will be vetted by a moderation team that will likely overlap significantly with, but will not be identical to, the unmannedspaceflight.com moderation team. It would be better if we had a few more moderators lined up -- please send me an email or PM to volunteer. Only one moderator need OK an image. Our goal is to make a pretty large image database that will be easy to search; moderators will be instrumental in making sure that images are correctly tagged and credited before they are allowed to go live.

QUOTE (Juramike @ Dec 14 2010, 01:01 PM) *
Submitted only from UMSF members? Or non-UMSF members as well?

Anybody! AmateurSpaceImages is a project inspired by UMSF and both will be financially administered by the Planetary Society; they're regarded as being part of the same project. However, there will be no direct relationship between UMSF membership and AmateurSpaceImages submission (so I hope that some of the good image processors who've gotten booted out of this website for rules violations will share their stuff at AmateurSpaceImages). Also, the Society will use the same server to host UMSF and AmateurSpaceImages.

QUOTE (Juramike @ Dec 14 2010, 01:01 PM) *
Is the initial start up fee ($5400) a one-time deal?  Or will there be an annual maintenance fee as well?

That start-up fee is a one-time deal for design and development. There will be costs associated with the hosting but they'll be an increment on top of what we pay already for the dedicated UMSF server (we just need to expand the storage space). Next year when I pass the hat for UMSF I'll be raising funds for both.

QUOTE (Juramike @ Dec 14 2010, 01:01 PM) *
Finally, how will this be significantly different from a flickr group pool?

Mainly in the site's organization around space image targets, instruments, and missions, which will hopefully make it easy to browse as well as search because of its specificity to the subject matter. Also I wanted a destination, a dedicated gallery. And I wanted it to be moderated, both to establish a quality bar and to make sure that credits are correct -- both for the data and for the processing. The tools for social network sharing will generate code that includes a credit line. I'm very insistent about this part because I know how sensitive both the data producers and the data processors are about making sure that credit is given where it's due.


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- elakdawalla   AmateurSpaceImages.com   Dec 14 2010, 08:35 PM
- - Juramike   Since I'm one of the private e-mailers mention...   Dec 14 2010, 09:01 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (Juramike @ Dec 14 2010, 01:01 PM) ...   Dec 14 2010, 09:16 PM
- - JohnVV   sounds good as I might be one of the content contr...   Dec 14 2010, 09:43 PM
- - elakdawalla   Another question asked of me through Facebook: ...   Dec 14 2010, 11:43 PM
- - JohnVV   as for licenses i have always used the orig. 90% o...   Dec 15 2010, 12:17 AM
- - eoincampbell   Will there be a place for those afraid of(or new t...   Dec 15 2010, 08:01 AM
- - DDAVIS   I have a number of such images, however most I wou...   Dec 15 2010, 09:11 AM
|- - tedstryk   I agree with Don on this one.   Dec 15 2010, 12:45 PM
- - elakdawalla   Don and Ted, just to be clear, this would mean the...   Dec 15 2010, 06:14 PM
|- - DDAVIS   ' just to be clear, this would mean there woul...   Dec 15 2010, 08:06 PM
- - hendric   Emily, Would posters such as Astro0 and Stu...   Dec 15 2010, 08:02 PM
- - ZLD   Forgive my ignorance, but outside of photographing...   Dec 15 2010, 08:12 PM
|- - DDAVIS   'Is it even possible to copyright images you h...   Dec 15 2010, 08:39 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (ZLD @ Dec 15 2010, 12:12 PM) Forgi...   Dec 15 2010, 09:51 PM
|- - DDAVIS   ' Copyright does not have to be explicitly sta...   Dec 15 2010, 10:00 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   Yes. In general, under U.S. law both copyright an...   Dec 15 2010, 08:31 PM
- - djellison   Oh - I totally agree - it makes perfect sense to i...   Dec 15 2010, 10:08 PM
- - elakdawalla   Well, from a coding standpoint, I'd planned to...   Dec 15 2010, 10:16 PM
- - JohnVV   QUOTE Might an appropriate compromise be to say th...   Dec 15 2010, 10:21 PM
- - DDAVIS   "© [COPYRIGHT HOLDER], all rights reserved....   Dec 15 2010, 10:27 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (DDAVIS @ Dec 15 2010, 10:27 PM) ...   Dec 16 2010, 03:20 PM
- - Juramike   I agree with Ted. I've contacted through and ...   Dec 16 2010, 03:54 PM
- - elakdawalla   Comments are already planned to be included, but f...   Dec 16 2010, 05:19 PM
- - elakdawalla   A question for people interested in copyright. On...   Dec 16 2010, 09:20 PM
|- - tedstryk   I like to know, but that is fine so long as credit...   Dec 17 2010, 12:10 AM
|- - DDAVIS   ' Don, Ted, is it OK for people to share reduc...   Dec 17 2010, 01:09 AM
- - elakdawalla   Just a quick note to tell everyone that we've ...   Jan 22 2011, 11:04 PM
- - CosmicRocker   I had a thought about a category of images for the...   Mar 13 2011, 05:34 AM
- - JAC   This all looks very exciting - lots of lovely imag...   Mar 14 2011, 12:34 PM
- - paxdan   Hi Emily, Is there an update on the launch date ...   May 24 2011, 04:31 PM
- - elakdawalla   I'm sorry about the slowness. The developer i...   May 24 2011, 07:40 PM
- - elakdawalla   Just an update. Progress is still being made but ...   Oct 21 2011, 07:41 PM
- - nprev   No worries, E.; I'm certain that it will be we...   Oct 22 2011, 10:41 PM
- - CosmicRocker   I'm sorry, Emily, but this is ridiculous. The...   Oct 26 2011, 05:03 AM
- - jasedm   Curious. A contract with the Planetary Society wou...   Oct 26 2011, 07:12 PM
- - djellison   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Oct 25 2011, 09:03 ...   Oct 26 2011, 07:22 PM
- - JohnVV   QUOTE to keep riding the programmer, who, in the m...   Oct 26 2011, 10:46 PM
- - nprev   Everyone, just a general thought: One thing I...   Oct 27 2011, 03:37 AM
|- - centsworth_II   Programmer's view: being bit in ass. Custome...   Oct 27 2011, 12:42 PM
- - CosmicRocker   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 26 2011, 02:22 PM)...   Oct 28 2011, 03:43 AM
- - jasedm   Hi Emily, Is there any progress you're able t...   Jan 25 2012, 09:12 PM
- - elakdawalla   Yes. After a long period of being MIA, the progra...   Jan 25 2012, 09:34 PM
- - jasedm   Thanks Emily, Looking forward to it! Jase   Jan 26 2012, 06:25 PM
- - machi   From Emily's twitter: "In 2 weeks you wil...   Apr 12 2012, 08:54 AM
- - djellison   The redesign of TPS's website.   Apr 12 2012, 01:08 PM
- - elakdawalla   Yeah, sorry. I had to redirect my attention to our...   Apr 12 2012, 03:25 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Apr 12 2012, 05:25 P...   Apr 13 2012, 05:25 AM
|- - climber   I fully second this...and not only because I'm...   Apr 13 2012, 01:46 PM
- - elakdawalla   Hi all. To gloss over an eventful few months in a ...   Jun 21 2012, 11:57 PM
- - elakdawalla   Okay...it's been a busy week, and I've lea...   Jun 30 2012, 06:19 AM
- - ngunn   Massive congratulations on the launch. For a start...   Jun 30 2012, 06:41 AM
- - nprev   Looks great, Emily! Gotta get off my shiny...   Jun 30 2012, 08:02 AM
- - Explorer1   Might want to change the title of the thread; ther...   Jun 30 2012, 07:38 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Jun 30 2012, 12:38 PM)...   Jun 30 2012, 11:42 PM
- - ngunn   As a mere spectator I have no images to contribute...   Jun 30 2012, 09:42 PM
- - elakdawalla   I'd like to encourage people like you to submi...   Jun 30 2012, 11:14 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 1 2012, 12:14 AM...   Jul 1 2012, 09:50 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jul 1 2012, 01:50 PM) Isn...   Jul 2 2012, 03:26 PM
- - machi   So the test was successful and your work is workin...   Jul 1 2012, 01:08 AM
- - lyford   Thanks Emily for all your hard work - it looks rea...   Jul 1 2012, 03:52 PM
- - Tom Dahl   I attempted to upload a JPEG image which is about ...   Jul 1 2012, 07:37 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (Tom Dahl @ Jul 1 2012, 11:37 AM) I...   Jul 2 2012, 03:23 PM
- - ngunn   Thanks and understood - so the two places are effe...   Jul 2 2012, 07:40 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jul 2 2012, 11:40 AM) Than...   Jul 2 2012, 09:14 PM
||- - ngunn   QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 2 2012, 10:14 PM) ...   Jul 2 2012, 10:08 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jul 2 2012, 11:40 AM) It...   Jul 2 2012, 10:10 PM
- - Explorer1   There's always the Internet Archive, but even ...   Jul 2 2012, 09:05 PM
- - ngunn   I've said enough here. Really I just want to c...   Jul 2 2012, 10:27 PM
- - elakdawalla   Hi folks, just an update. I have streamlined a lot...   Sep 12 2012, 05:01 AM
- - JohnVV   slight problem with the site the formatting dose ...   Sep 12 2012, 05:26 AM
- - elakdawalla   Thanks. I probably won't be able to investigat...   Sep 12 2012, 03:43 PM
- - elakdawalla   Status update: I've finished importing the ima...   Sep 19 2012, 04:09 AM
- - ngunn   I have a query about the zoomify facility increasi...   Oct 13 2012, 12:02 PM
- - elakdawalla   I've been working on some stuff in the back en...   Oct 26 2012, 12:18 AM
|- - kemcab2012   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Oct 25 2012, 07:18 P...   Nov 1 2012, 01:52 PM
- - elakdawalla   We have recently added two new capabilities to the...   May 18 2013, 10:31 PM
- - elakdawalla   We've been putting a lot of work into the spac...   Nov 8 2013, 11:13 PM


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