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post Aug 25 2005, 11:22 AM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4180840.stm

Europe has fixed on a concept for its next mission to land on the Red Planet.

It aims to send a single robot rover to the Martian surface along with another, stationary, science package.
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Cugel
post Aug 25 2005, 03:13 PM
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a mass of 120kg for the rover and 8-14kg for the science payload


That's a lot of balsa wood! But I wonder how much drilling you can get out of that?
A MER rover is 185 kg. and is totally geology dedicated. Is it possible to build a life detection system in 8-14 kg. ????
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QUOTE (Cugel @ Aug 25 2005, 10:13 AM)
From the article:
That's a lot of balsa wood! But I wonder how much drilling you can get out of that?
A MER rover is 185 kg. and is totally geology dedicated. Is it possible to build a life detection system in 8-14 kg. ????
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Besides, the rover has only 4 wheels instead of 6 wheels. I am affraid that it will need purified sands on all parts... blink.gif

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- Sunspot   ExoMars   Aug 25 2005, 11:22 AM
- - Marcel   They want to land that rover so badly......(which ...   Aug 25 2005, 01:21 PM
- - djellison   And why the american data realy - is MEX expected ...   Aug 25 2005, 01:39 PM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 25 2005, 01:39 PM)And ...   Aug 25 2005, 01:52 PM
- - RNeuhaus   What is MEX? I haven't heard of it. Will be gl...   Aug 25 2005, 02:43 PM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Aug 25 2005, 02:43 PM)What ...   Aug 25 2005, 02:52 PM
- - RNeuhaus   Ooppss, it is a smart word! Thanks Marcel.   Aug 25 2005, 02:54 PM
- - djellison   One thing space isnt short of it's Acronyms ...   Aug 25 2005, 02:56 PM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 25 2005, 02:56 PM)One ...   Aug 25 2005, 02:58 PM
||- - Marcel   QUOTE (Marcel @ Aug 25 2005, 02:58 PM)And you...   Aug 25 2005, 02:59 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 25 2005, 09:56 AM)One ...   Aug 25 2005, 02:58 PM
- - Cugel   From the article: QUOTE a mass of 120kg for the ...   Aug 25 2005, 03:13 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (Cugel @ Aug 25 2005, 10:13 AM)From the...   Aug 25 2005, 03:20 PM
- - djellison   A straight copy of the Beagle 2 science payload wo...   Aug 25 2005, 03:25 PM
- - djellison   Oh MODY - some call it MO2k1- Mars Odyssey Doug   Aug 25 2005, 04:12 PM
- - SigurRosFan   Will SMILE fly to Mars with ESA's ExoMars?? h...   Aug 25 2005, 07:32 PM
- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE SigurRosFan(Posted Today, 02:32 PM) The ESA ...   Aug 25 2005, 08:02 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   One reason that NASA decided not to fly a 1-meter ...   Aug 25 2005, 08:28 PM
- - SigurRosFan   Sorry. Wrong link. MOA will fly definitely(...   Aug 25 2005, 08:44 PM
- - Rakhir   Alcatel Alenia Space starts the ExoMars mission de...   Jan 31 2006, 01:25 PM
|- - vikingmars   Here is the missing link : http://www.alcatel.com/...   Jan 31 2006, 03:05 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   Excerpt from the February 13, 2006, issue of Aviat...   Feb 13 2006, 11:39 PM
- - Rakhir   Europe Mars shot looks to upgrade http://news.bb...   Mar 16 2006, 01:07 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Rakhir @ Mar 16 2006, 01:07 PM) Eu...   Mar 16 2006, 06:00 PM
- - ljk4-1   The technology for this "lab on a chip" ...   Apr 25 2006, 02:51 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Apr 25 2006, 04:51 P...   Apr 25 2006, 08:43 PM
- - PhilHorzempa   Even though the American Mars program has been cut...   May 26 2006, 03:03 AM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (PhilHorzempa @ May 26 2006, 01:03 ...   May 26 2006, 04:14 AM
|- - AndyG   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ May 26 2006, 05:14 A...   May 26 2006, 09:31 AM
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||- - djellison   QUOTE (karolp @ May 26 2006, 11:17 AM) At...   May 30 2006, 12:22 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Here's one I prepared earlier! Bob Shaw   May 26 2006, 11:43 AM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ May 26 2006, 05:14 A...   May 26 2006, 01:40 PM
- - lyford   That's a really nice pic - looks like the dril...   May 26 2006, 04:00 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   I suspect ESA is not going to be able to come anyw...   May 26 2006, 04:39 AM
|- - Stephen   I notice the ExoMars rover as drawn in those pics ...   May 31 2006, 01:50 AM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (Stephen @ May 30 2006, 08:50 PM) I...   May 31 2006, 09:41 PM
- - remcook   QUOTE (lyford @ May 26 2006, 05:00 AM) Li...   May 26 2006, 08:48 AM
- - Cugel   And armed to kill! I wonder if the motors on ...   May 27 2006, 02:40 PM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (Cugel @ May 28 2006, 12:40 AM) The...   May 28 2006, 01:27 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   I hope they have some way to pop the drill assembl...   May 28 2006, 01:36 AM
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|- - helvick   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jun 13 2006, 04:58 PM) ...   Jun 13 2006, 09:30 PM
- - Analyst   I am from Europe, but this article is cheap talk, ...   Jun 13 2006, 01:49 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Analyst @ Jun 13 2006, 02:49 PM) I...   Jun 13 2006, 02:05 PM
- - Analyst   Good point.   Jun 13 2006, 02:31 PM
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|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Redstone @ Jun 13 2006, 03:33 PM) ...   Jun 13 2006, 05:54 PM
- - DonPMitchell   Space programs are fundamentally competative, whic...   Jun 13 2006, 04:35 PM
- - RNeuhaus   Helvick, Your comments are for Amen! Much impr...   Jun 13 2006, 09:53 PM
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||- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jun 13 2006, 07:59 PM) ...   Jun 14 2006, 03:45 AM
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||- - helvick   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jun 14 2006, 05:45 PM) ...   Jun 15 2006, 04:49 PM
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- - DonPMitchell   The Bell Labs inventor of UNIX, Ken Thompson, was ...   Jun 14 2006, 03:23 AM
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|- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jun 14 2006, 02:34 AM) ...   Jun 14 2006, 05:04 PM
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- - hendric   What's your thoughts on the DARPA challenge? ...   Jun 16 2006, 05:49 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (hendric @ Jun 15 2006, 10:49 PM) W...   Jun 16 2006, 02:13 PM
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- - DonPMitchell   It would save a lot of time and planning if a rove...   Jun 16 2006, 07:17 AM
- - djellison   Don - have you seen the results of the Darpa chall...   Jun 16 2006, 09:01 AM
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|- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jun 16 2006, 08:20 AM...   Jun 16 2006, 07:26 PM
|- - Stephen   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Jun 16 2006, 07:26 ...   Jun 23 2006, 12:32 PM
||- - djellison   QUOTE (Stephen @ Jun 23 2006, 01:32 PM) n...   Jun 23 2006, 12:39 PM
|- - Cugel   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Jun 16 2006, 07:26 ...   Jun 23 2006, 02:42 PM
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|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 16 2006, 10:29 AM)...   Jun 16 2006, 04:06 PM
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- - dvandorn   Cugel, we're talking about artificial *intelli...   Jun 23 2006, 05:24 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Has anyone proposed a manned mission for the purpo...   Jun 24 2006, 04:52 PM
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- - mchan   Well, I wouldn't say definitely. In general, ...   Jun 25 2006, 05:19 AM
- - helvick   QUOTE (mchan @ Jun 25 2006, 06:19 AM) Rad...   Jun 25 2006, 10:09 AM
- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (mchan @ Jun 25 2006, 12:19 AM) Wel...   Jun 26 2006, 12:12 AM
- - mchan   Sounds like a different Moore than the one I am fa...   Jun 26 2006, 09:13 AM
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