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MAVEN development to orbit insertion
Marslauncher
post Jul 30 2012, 02:31 PM
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Not sure if this has been touched on before, I did not see a place for the MAVEN mission on the Past or Future missions subsection.

1)Will MAVEN have the ability to relay communication from the surface vehicles to Earth?
2)Am I correct in reading there are no visual cameras on MAVEN?


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http://lasp.colorado.edu/home/maven/scienc...rument-package/

The Particles and Fields Package, built by the University of California, Berkeley/Space Sciences Laboratory (SSL) with support from the University of Colorado Boulder/Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics (LASP) and Goddard Space Flight Center (GSFC), contains six instruments that will characterize the solar wind and the ionosphere of the planet:

•Solar Wind Electron Analyzer (SWEA)
•Solar Wind Ion Analyzer (SWIA)
•Suprathermal and Thermal Ion Composition (STATIC)
•Solar Energetic Particle (SEP)
•Langmuir Probe and Waves (LPW)
•Magnetometer (MAG)
The Remote Sensing Package, built by LASP, will determine global characteristics of the upper atmosphere and ionosphere via remote sensing.

•Imaging Ultraviolet Spectrometer (IUVS)
The Neutral Gas and Ion Mass Spectrometer (NGIMS), provided by GFSC, will measure the composition and isotopes of neutral ions.



Apologies in advance if this has already been answered. (btw I think we do need a MAVEN sticky in future missions)

John (Mars)

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post Apr 12 2013, 02:51 PM
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About the angled panels: As a previous poster said, the panels are angled so that the craft is stable when flying through the atmosphere. What no one has noted is why it needs to be stable. Maven is NOT going to aerobrake. It goes initially into a 35-hour highly elliptical orbit, but after a couple of days it performs another powered maneuver to lower the period from 35 hours to 4.5 hours, all in one burn.

The spacecraft performs periodic deep dips, to allow the instruments on board to touch, smell, and taste the atmosphere. It dips in to the upper atmosphere, as low as the scientists could convince the engineers to go, stays low for a couple of (4.5 hour) orbits, then raises periapse back out of the atmosphere. It does this several times (5 times planned for the prime 1-earth-year mission) because the orbit precesses such that the periapse latitude changes, and therefore the spacecraft can deep-dip at a variety of latitudes.

So, the panels are angled to be stable, and it needs to be stable not for aerobraking but for deep dips.

Also, the science orbit is not optimal for relay, and the relay orbit is not optimal for science. At some point, the plan is to maneuver from an orbit more friendly to science to an orbit more friendly to relay, for sure after the 1-earth-year prime mission is complete, but as late as the scientists can convince the project managers. The relay equipment on Mars Odyssey and Mars Recon Orbiter both still work fine, but they won't last forever. Maven is a backup/replacement for those.

I have never heard about a plan for a terminal deep-dip, and from what I can tell, the scientists would prefer a longer mission to going out in a blaze of glory, even if relay were not an issue.
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post Apr 15 2013, 11:39 AM
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MAVEN was always going to serve as a relay, and it's orbit was going to be changed to enable that.
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- Marslauncher   MAVEN development to orbit insertion   Jul 30 2012, 02:31 PM
- - MahFL   "NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasade...   Jul 30 2012, 03:34 PM
- - Drkskywxlt   Yes to both questions. However, MAVEN will not as...   Jul 30 2012, 03:49 PM
|- - Marslauncher   Thanks, That was what I had assumed (Telecom on al...   Jul 30 2012, 04:18 PM
|- - MahFL   I believe the plan with MAVEN is to park it in a g...   Jul 30 2012, 05:08 PM
|- - Drkskywxlt   QUOTE (MahFL @ Jul 30 2012, 12:08 PM) I b...   Jul 30 2012, 06:12 PM
|- - MahFL   QUOTE (Drkskywxlt @ Jul 30 2012, 06:12 PM...   Jul 31 2012, 02:13 AM
|- - stone   QUOTE (MahFL @ Jul 31 2012, 03:13 AM) Wel...   Jan 31 2013, 01:18 PM
|- - mwolff   QUOTE (stone @ Jan 31 2013, 07:18 AM) Thi...   Jan 31 2013, 03:53 PM
- - Drkskywxlt   Per Bruce Jakosky at the pre-AGU MAVEN workshop, M...   Jan 31 2013, 05:38 PM
|- - vjkane   For the 2020 rover mission, NASA is planning on ha...   Jan 31 2013, 10:04 PM
|- - stone   QUOTE (Drkskywxlt @ Jan 31 2013, 06:38 PM...   Feb 2 2013, 11:20 AM
- - stevesliva   Some integration photos of MAVEN here   Apr 9 2013, 09:42 PM
- - Explorer1   Was it ever explained why the ends of the solar pa...   Apr 10 2013, 03:34 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Apr 9 2013, 11:34 PM) ...   Apr 10 2013, 04:03 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Apr 9 2013, 09:03 ...   Apr 10 2013, 04:10 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Apr 9 2013, 08:03 ...   Apr 10 2013, 05:10 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 9 2013, 10:10 PM) ...   Apr 10 2013, 05:31 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Apr 9 2013, 10:31 PM)...   Apr 10 2013, 01:52 PM
- - nprev   A very fine example of learning from experience ...   Apr 10 2013, 05:01 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (nprev @ Apr 9 2013, 10:01 PM) A ve...   Apr 10 2013, 02:28 PM
- - Explorer1   And the other option, putting the magnetometers on...   Apr 10 2013, 08:41 AM
- - dvandorn   This, of course, would not be the first time a Mar...   Apr 10 2013, 10:17 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Apr 11 2013, 12:17 AM) ...   Apr 11 2013, 05:15 AM
- - kwan3217   About the angled panels: As a previous poster said...   Apr 12 2013, 02:51 PM
|- - MahFL   MAVEN was always going to serve as a relay, and it...   Apr 15 2013, 11:39 AM
- - Astro0   Send your name and a message to Mars with MAVEN. ...   May 4 2013, 09:55 AM
|- - punkboi   I think this is the first time that names were col...   May 8 2013, 12:29 AM
- - vjkane   I'm hoping someone here can help me out. I...   Jul 8 2013, 07:40 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (vjkane @ Jul 8 2013, 12:40 PM) I...   Jul 9 2013, 05:14 PM
- - nprev   Mike, do you have any idea when they're planni...   Jul 13 2013, 12:10 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (nprev @ Jul 12 2013, 05:10 PM) Mik...   Jul 13 2013, 12:54 AM
- - nprev   Ah; thanks. I thought that you guys were somehow i...   Jul 13 2013, 06:07 AM
- - Paolo   a long article on MAVEN in the latest issue of Avi...   Aug 24 2013, 06:26 AM
- - Cruzeiro do Sul   Hi Paolo. I'm a little worried about Maven...   Oct 1 2013, 09:31 PM
- - elakdawalla   A lot of people are worried about MAVEN launch sta...   Oct 1 2013, 09:38 PM
- - Cruzeiro do Sul   Thanks Emily for this fast reply. So we will stay ...   Oct 2 2013, 08:38 AM
- - kwan3217   It's useful, it's well sourced, but I can...   Oct 3 2013, 05:04 PM
- - Cruzeiro do Sul   Very please to know that. Thank you very much Kwan...   Oct 3 2013, 08:36 PM
- - kwan3217   I can now reveal my source: QUOTE MAVEN is requir...   Oct 3 2013, 10:06 PM
- - Explorer1   It's good news whatever reason, relay or scien...   Oct 3 2013, 10:43 PM
- - Ron Hobbs   The exemption has made the news. Update: Mars Mis...   Oct 4 2013, 04:49 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Ron Hobbs @ Oct 4 2013, 09:49 AM) ...   Oct 4 2013, 05:04 PM
- - punkboi   MAVEN's Atlas V vehicle is ready for its Wet D...   Oct 28 2013, 08:34 PM
- - vjkane   I looked for the press kit, but didn't find on...   Oct 29 2013, 01:28 AM
- - elakdawalla   No, they always produce them. I looked for it toda...   Oct 29 2013, 01:47 AM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Oct 29 2013, 02:47 A...   Nov 16 2013, 09:54 AM
- - punkboi   The Wet Dress Rehearsal has been successfully comp...   Oct 29 2013, 07:45 PM
|- - punkboi   MAVEN is now mated to its Atlas V launch vehicle ...   Nov 8 2013, 05:41 PM
- - Seryddwr   Bump... just over half an hour to go. Weather boar...   Nov 18 2013, 05:44 PM
|- - MahFL   QUOTE (Seryddwr @ Nov 18 2013, 06:44 PM) ...   Nov 18 2013, 05:49 PM
|- - MahFL   QUOTE (MahFL @ Nov 18 2013, 06:49 PM) A C...   Nov 18 2013, 05:51 PM
- - Seryddwr   Now at a short built-in hold at T-4 minutes.   Nov 18 2013, 06:15 PM
- - Explorer1   Liftoff!   Nov 18 2013, 06:22 PM
- - Seryddwr   Off the hold.   Nov 18 2013, 06:24 PM
- - Seryddwr   T-60 seconds.   Nov 18 2013, 06:27 PM
- - Seryddwr   Liftoff! Go MAVEN!   Nov 18 2013, 06:28 PM
- - Seryddwr   Through the sound barrier and through Max-Q. ...   Nov 18 2013, 06:29 PM
- - Seryddwr   A perfect launch by the sounds of it. Congrats all...   Nov 18 2013, 06:32 PM
- - Explorer1   Spacecraft separation. Mars, here we come!   Nov 18 2013, 07:22 PM
|- - craigmcg   And now we wait...   Nov 18 2013, 10:53 PM
|- - pospa   QUOTE (craigmcg @ Nov 19 2013, 12:53 AM) ...   Nov 19 2013, 12:41 PM
|- - MahFL   Also they plan to observe comet ISON, if ISON surv...   Nov 19 2013, 04:33 PM
- - Paolo   some info on the ISON observations https://dnnpro....   Nov 22 2013, 06:14 PM
|- - kwan3217   Two instruments have been turned on and checked ou...   Dec 6 2013, 03:25 PM
- - Paolo   in case anyone is interested, I recently asked to ...   Jan 27 2014, 09:00 PM
- - Doug M.   So MAVEN has already done a couple of Trajectory ...   Mar 17 2014, 12:38 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (Doug M. @ Mar 17 2014, 01:38 PM) A...   Mar 17 2014, 05:58 PM
|- - kenny   QUOTE (Paolo @ Mar 17 2014, 06:58 PM) I w...   Sep 9 2014, 10:00 AM
|- - Mr Valiant   Guys, here she comes. Fingers crossed.   Sep 20 2014, 04:22 PM
- - RichforMars   Once ub orbit, then orbital position will need ad...   Sep 20 2014, 08:37 PM
- - briv1016   What factors lead the team to opt for a series of ...   Sep 21 2014, 05:23 AM
- - djellison   If you don't need to use aerobraking....why bo...   Sep 21 2014, 02:18 PM
- - Explorer1   There will be quite a bit of aerobraking during th...   Sep 21 2014, 04:54 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Sep 21 2014, 08:54 AM)...   Sep 21 2014, 07:43 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Also... it's a mistake to think of something a...   Sep 21 2014, 07:08 PM
- - Explorer1   Thanks Doug; that explains it well. So Odyssey is...   Sep 21 2014, 08:16 PM
|- - MahFL   Watching the NASA feed, fingers crossed. NASA TV   Sep 22 2014, 01:34 AM
|- - MahFL   Successful insertion.   Sep 22 2014, 02:26 AM
- - Astro0   Everything looks good so far on MAVEN. We had a g...   Sep 22 2014, 06:36 AM
- - elakdawalla   Congratulations to MAVEN! Now that it's a ...   Sep 22 2014, 02:31 PM


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