New Mars Express And Huygens Results, ESA conference - November 30, 2005 |
New Mars Express And Huygens Results, ESA conference - November 30, 2005 |
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Nov 22 2005, 06:15 PM
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http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMA96ULWFE_index_0.html
Relating to Mars Express: "At the same time, ESA’s Mars Express mission is continuing its investigations of Mars, painting a new picture of the 'red planet'. This includes the first ever probing below the surface of Mars, new geological clues with implications for the climate, newly-discovered surface and atmospheric features and, above all, traces of the presence of water on this world." |
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Nov 30 2005, 06:18 PM
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I have access to Nature.....Shall I do something naughty? or will that merely cause headaches for Doug... in which case I obviously won't do it...
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Nov 30 2005, 08:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 20-June 04 From: Portland, Oregon, U.S.A. Member No.: 86 |
I was going to defend Nature's charging to view exclusive reports and data, but why do they charge, exactly? Is it because they provide a service by filtering out the 'bad' reports and data? Or is it just that magazines like Nature are obsolete in today's widely Internet-enabled world? Why don't these science teams just self-publish the data on some website they control?
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Nov 30 2005, 08:33 PM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
QUOTE (mike @ Nov 30 2005, 12:22 PM) I was going to defend Nature's charging to view exclusive reports and data, but why do they charge, exactly? Is it because they provide a service by filtering out the 'bad' reports and data? Or is it just that magazines like Nature are obsolete in today's widely Internet-enabled world? Why don't these science teams just self-publish the data on some website they control? Two words: peer review. Anybody can publish anything on the Internet. And they do. Publications like Science, Nature, the Journal of Geophysical Research, etc. separate the wheat from the chaff. When a paper is submitted, it is either rejected outright or sent out to other scientists in the same field for review. The reviewers make lots of comments on the paper and advise the publisher whether it should be considered for publication, or should be revised and resubmitted for a second review, or rejected. The original authors revise the paper and at length it may be accepted for publication. This process provides a seal of approval to published papers indicating that their arguments have been read and accepted as valid by a scientist's peers, and prevents a lot of junk from being published. Of course there are drawbacks as well; the process can take a long time (sometimes more than 2 years from initial submission to publication, though Nature and Science are much quicker), and of course it tends to punish radical new ideas. But what that means is that people have to come up with a rock-solid case to prove an extraordinary claim, and that's not necessarily bad. Having a paper published in a top journal is an incredibly important thing for a researcher's status in his or her field. The more refereed publications you have (as opposed to un-reviewed publications like abstracts presented at conferences), the more likely you are to be tenured, to be successful in grant applications, etc. --Emily -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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