New Mars Express And Huygens Results, ESA conference - November 30, 2005 |
New Mars Express And Huygens Results, ESA conference - November 30, 2005 |
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http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMA96ULWFE_index_0.html
Relating to Mars Express: "At the same time, ESA’s Mars Express mission is continuing its investigations of Mars, painting a new picture of the 'red planet'. This includes the first ever probing below the surface of Mars, new geological clues with implications for the climate, newly-discovered surface and atmospheric features and, above all, traces of the presence of water on this world." |
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I have access to Nature.....Shall I do something naughty?
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I was going to defend Nature's charging to view exclusive reports and data, but why do they charge, exactly? Is it because they provide a service by filtering out the 'bad' reports and data? Or is it just that magazines like Nature are obsolete in today's widely Internet-enabled world? Why don't these science teams just self-publish the data on some website they control?
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QUOTE (mike @ Nov 30 2005, 12:22 PM) I was going to defend Nature's charging to view exclusive reports and data, but why do they charge, exactly? Is it because they provide a service by filtering out the 'bad' reports and data? Or is it just that magazines like Nature are obsolete in today's widely Internet-enabled world? Why don't these science teams just self-publish the data on some website they control? Two words: peer review. Anybody can publish anything on the Internet. And they do. ![]() --Emily -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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Publishing in Nature achieves several things. First, it validates your work. Not the data itself, but your interpretation of that data, which is subject to independent peer review. Second, it ensures that your work goes how to a wide audience, hundreds of thosuands of people read Nature, all the science news sites quote Nature. Ditto for Science Third, it is a permanent record, not only is Nature (or any other journal) archived electronically, paper copies exist in thousands of libraries round the world. Even your research group or even the journal were to fold tomorrow, people could still locate your work one hundred years from now.
Publishing on the web does not achieve any of this. Most web published artciles are not peer reviewed, when they are, there is a perception that it is not independent, people will get their mates to do it. There are so many web pages out there that unless people know what to look for the site has a low profile. Lastly web sites are ephemeral, many journals will not accept web links for precisely this reason, in addition to those above. Impact is critical in science careers. If you publish in, for example Nature, your paper will be regarded as having a high impact. Publish in what is perceived lesser journal and it will have a lower impact. Self publish on the web and it will probably have a negative impact. Positions, scholarships, and grants can all depend on the impact of your work. That is why people publish their studies in recognised refereed journals. Jon |
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