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Hayabusa - The Return To Earth, The voyage home
odave
post Nov 28 2005, 03:08 PM
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...starting a new thread for Hayabusa's sampling feedback and the return voyage.

After its nail-biting success in November, will there be enough fuel for the Falcon to make it home?


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post Dec 17 2005, 09:18 PM
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Well, it did everything NEAR did on only about 2/3 of the money, which is not to be sneezed at -- especially since it gave us nice comparative data on another asteroid. Unfortunately, it now looks as though everything it tried to do BEYOND what NEAR did will be a washout.
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post Dec 18 2005, 04:11 AM
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QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 17 2005, 09:18 PM)
Well, it did everything NEAR did on only about 2/3 of the money, which is not to be sneezed at -- especially since it gave us nice comparative data on another asteroid.  Unfortunately, it now looks as though everything it tried to do BEYOND what NEAR did will be a washout.
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It also gave us closeup data on a class of world that, other than Galileo's glimpses of Dactyl, we had never seen close up. A very important mission. I must admit that I have no confidence now that it will return to earth. My hope is that it will regain orientation long enough to transmit the data (and possibly more images) from its last landing attempt.


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post Dec 18 2005, 08:13 PM
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And also remember that this is primarily an engineering mission, and as such even the failures are valuable. I'm sure JAXA/ISAS is keeping a list of what went right and wrong. Hopefully backup reaction wheels are near the top under "what to do better next time"


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- odave   Hayabusa - The Return To Earth   Nov 28 2005, 03:08 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (odave @ Nov 28 2005, 03:08 PM)...start...   Nov 28 2005, 03:16 PM
- - RNeuhaus   Recent News from Matsuura Newspaper 2005.11.28 ...   Nov 28 2005, 09:56 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Nov 28 2005, 09:56 PM)This ...   Nov 28 2005, 10:09 PM
- - RNeuhaus   According to the article of the space.com. By Dece...   Nov 28 2005, 10:18 PM
- - mike   It would certainly be interesting if Hayabusa foll...   Nov 28 2005, 10:38 PM
- - Joffan   I'm not sure that sitting in Itokawa's sha...   Nov 29 2005, 01:06 AM
- - mike   Yeah, I remembered the solar panels need some sola...   Nov 29 2005, 02:16 AM
- - Ishigame   I would tell you some bad news… JAXA says Hayabusa...   Nov 29 2005, 08:04 AM
|- - odave   Good translation! Worrying news, though. The...   Nov 29 2005, 03:40 PM
|- - hugh   QUOTE (odave @ Nov 29 2005, 03:40 PM)Kawaguch...   Nov 30 2005, 12:40 PM
- - nop   Sorry for multi-posting. If your friends are work...   Nov 29 2005, 04:51 PM
- - odave   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Nov 29 2005, 01:44 PM fr...   Nov 29 2005, 07:03 PM
- - Orlin Denkov   QUOTE Probe returning to Earth after asteroid land...   Nov 29 2005, 10:41 PM
- - TheChemist   Probably not good things There are two press r...   Nov 29 2005, 11:09 PM
- - nop   Dear 5thstar (if you read this forum), ljk4-1, oda...   Nov 30 2005, 03:16 AM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (nop @ Nov 29 2005, 10:16 PM)Dear 5thst...   Nov 30 2005, 04:00 AM
- - deglr6328   Grist for the Moomaw mill ... This from the Nat...   Dec 1 2005, 12:04 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Pride goeth before a l...   Dec 1 2005, 12:35 AM
|- - helvick   Nice detailed update from Emily over at The Planet...   Dec 1 2005, 12:48 AM
- - RNeuhaus   Dramatic news extracted from Planetary.org: At t...   Dec 1 2005, 02:24 AM
- - mike   If Hayabusa's thrusters persist in being only ...   Dec 1 2005, 04:18 AM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (mike @ Dec 1 2005, 04:18 AM)If Hayabus...   Dec 1 2005, 05:40 AM
||- - ljk4-1   Would it be possible to send out a probe to snag H...   Dec 2 2005, 07:53 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (mike @ Dec 1 2005, 05:18 AM)If Hayabus...   Dec 2 2005, 08:34 PM
- - RNeuhaus   There many options. Wait for a while until before ...   Dec 2 2005, 08:31 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Dec 2 2005, 09:31 PM)There ...   Dec 2 2005, 08:45 PM
- - odave   5thstar's blog has a few new Hayabusa updates....   Dec 3 2005, 02:06 PM
|- - RogueEngineer   QUOTE (odave @ Dec 3 2005, 11:06 PM)Hopefully...   Dec 7 2005, 12:58 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Are they actually saying that they themselves acci...   Dec 7 2005, 02:07 PM
- - RNeuhaus   December 7, 2005 05:42 PM According to the L/D of...   Dec 7 2005, 02:31 PM
- - nop   More translations have been added on the comment a...   Dec 8 2005, 12:29 AM
- - Harder   The Dec 8 update of the Y.M. Column is now online....   Dec 8 2005, 01:35 PM
|- - odave   From the above: QUOTE During its operation Dr. Ku...   Dec 8 2005, 02:48 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (odave @ Dec 8 2005, 02:48 PM)From the ...   Dec 8 2005, 03:36 PM
|- - odave   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Dec 8 2005, 10:36 AM)I have...   Dec 8 2005, 03:46 PM
- - odave   Lots of good info in those new translations - the ...   Dec 8 2005, 04:01 PM
|- - ljk4-1   Status of the Hayabusa ...   Dec 9 2005, 05:08 PM
- - RNeuhaus   Hope that Hayabusa has a match fire on their side ...   Dec 9 2005, 05:17 PM
|- - The Messenger   Since the xenon was not intended to be used as an ...   Dec 9 2005, 07:11 PM
|- - ljk4-1   FATE OF JAPAN'S TROUBLED ASTEROID PROBE UNCERT...   Dec 12 2005, 08:03 PM
|- - odave   QUOTE (The Messenger @ Dec 9 2005, 02:11 PM)S...   Dec 12 2005, 08:35 PM
- - amezz   Press Conference about Hayabusa present status, wi...   Dec 13 2005, 05:49 PM
- - elakdawalla   Just added this to my blog, I thought I'd add ...   Dec 13 2005, 11:44 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   I very much doubt it will be around by then, and I...   Dec 14 2005, 02:33 AM
|- - ljk4-1   So - would another nation be willing and able to r...   Dec 14 2005, 02:38 AM
||- - amezz   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 14 2005, 06:38 AM)If...   Dec 14 2005, 10:46 AM
||- - ljk4-1   *** JAXA MAIL SERVICE *** Japa...   Dec 14 2005, 12:17 PM
||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (amezz @ Dec 14 2005, 11:46 AM)Yes...   Dec 17 2005, 01:54 PM
||- - MahFL   "Except for the return element, Hayabusa has ...   Dec 17 2005, 08:11 PM
|- - lyford   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 13 2005, 06:33 PM)I ...   Dec 14 2005, 03:17 AM
- - elakdawalla   Shin-ya Matsuura's transcript is up in Japanes...   Dec 14 2005, 02:40 AM
- - elakdawalla   A cooperative translation project is taking place ...   Dec 14 2005, 03:47 AM
- - lyford   QUOTE If the ion engines are ignited again by the ...   Dec 14 2005, 04:47 AM
- - lyford   From the translation: At first when I read the int...   Dec 14 2005, 05:50 AM
- - nop   English version of JAXA press release: http://www....   Dec 14 2005, 12:18 PM
|- - abalone   QUOTE (nop @ Dec 14 2005, 11:18 PM)Guys, wait...   Dec 14 2005, 12:28 PM
- - djellison   All sounds a little bit Nozomi-ish really I just...   Dec 14 2005, 12:45 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 14 2005, 07:45 AM)All ...   Dec 14 2005, 05:11 PM
|- - nop   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 15 2005, 02:11 AM)Sp...   Dec 14 2005, 05:42 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (nop @ Dec 14 2005, 12:42 PM)Nozomi is ...   Dec 14 2005, 06:09 PM
- - djellison   It'd be cheaper, and the results would be bett...   Dec 14 2005, 06:16 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 14 2005, 01:16 PM)It...   Dec 14 2005, 07:11 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 14 2005, 07:11 PM)So...   Dec 14 2005, 08:30 PM
|- - ljk4-1   Science/Astronomy: * Asteroid Probe Yields Insigh...   Dec 14 2005, 08:42 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 14 2005, 03:30 PM)Some...   Dec 16 2005, 04:16 PM
- - RNeuhaus   Indeed yes, but we are still with diaper in space ...   Dec 14 2005, 06:25 PM
- - RNeuhaus   Example for Hayabusa return starting in June 2007 ...   Dec 16 2005, 04:01 PM
|- - nop   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Dec 17 2005, 01:01 AM)The q...   Dec 16 2005, 05:28 PM
- - Phil Stooke   ljk4-1 : "QUOTE(djellison @ Dec 14 2005...   Dec 16 2005, 06:42 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Dec 16 2005, 01:42 PM)lj...   Dec 16 2005, 06:48 PM
- - edstrick   The Hayabusa orbits plot is in sun-earth-fixed ROT...   Dec 17 2005, 05:44 AM
- - deglr6328   Heathens! How dare you try to explain away Hay...   Dec 17 2005, 08:52 AM
|- - lyford   QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Dec 17 2005, 12:52 AM)Heat...   Dec 19 2005, 07:02 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Well, it did everything NEAR did on only about 2/3...   Dec 17 2005, 09:18 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 17 2005, 10:18 PM)We...   Dec 17 2005, 10:04 PM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 17 2005, 03:18 PM)We...   Dec 18 2005, 02:05 AM
||- - hugh   QUOTE (Holder of the Two Leashes @ Dec 18 200...   Dec 19 2005, 12:30 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 17 2005, 09:18 PM)We...   Dec 18 2005, 04:11 AM
|- - odave   And also remember that this is primarily an engine...   Dec 18 2005, 08:13 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Let me amend: ALMOST everything. (Its best photos...   Dec 18 2005, 03:11 AM
- - edstrick   Hayabusa returned a huge amount of infrared spectr...   Dec 19 2005, 07:00 AM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   QUOTE (edstrick @ Dec 19 2005, 01:00 AM)Hayab...   Dec 19 2005, 05:32 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Holder of the Two Leashes @ Dec 19 200...   Dec 20 2005, 05:34 AM
- - The Messenger   Does anyone have any insight into why reaction whe...   Dec 19 2005, 03:33 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Even if Hayabusa only returned a quarter of NEAR...   Dec 19 2005, 07:19 PM
|- - ljk4-1   Would it have been easier to have Hayabusa touch d...   Dec 19 2005, 07:43 PM
- - edstrick   Holder of the Two Leashes: "The reason it ...   Dec 19 2005, 07:38 PM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   QUOTE (edstrick @ Dec 19 2005, 01:38 PM)I not...   Dec 19 2005, 08:54 PM
- - RNeuhaus   Minerva would do much better the job with imaging ...   Dec 19 2005, 07:51 PM
- - Joffan   QUOTE (Holder of the Two Leashes @ Dec 19 200...   Dec 19 2005, 10:31 PM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   QUOTE (Joffan @ Dec 19 2005, 04:31 PM)I thoug...   Dec 19 2005, 11:45 PM
- - lyford   And NEAR never found a Red Light District, either....   Dec 20 2005, 02:43 AM
- - edstrick   Holder of the Two Leashes: "...One other th...   Dec 20 2005, 09:31 AM
|- - JRehling   Both missions were successful. Note that they were...   Dec 20 2005, 04:43 PM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   QUOTE (edstrick @ Dec 20 2005, 03:31 AM)I gue...   Dec 20 2005, 07:29 PM
|- - The Messenger   QUOTE (edstrick @ Dec 20 2005, 02:31 AM)Where...   Dec 21 2005, 02:34 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Hawaii's Jeffrey Bell has been telling me for ...   Dec 20 2005, 10:12 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I just noticed this, though it may not be brand ne...   Dec 30 2005, 06:32 PM
- - ljk4-1   Maybe if we wait a few million years, we'll ge...   Jan 3 2006, 05:11 PM
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