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#571
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Per a statement from ESA today, "Regarding the ExoMars programme continuation, the sanctions and the wider context make a launch in 2022 very unlikely. ESA’s Director General will analyse all the options and prepare a formal decision on the way forward by ESA Member States."
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#572
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Thank you, vjkane.
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#573
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 291 Joined: 29-December 05 From: Ottawa, ON Member No.: 624 ![]() |
Here is an update confirming it won't launch this year and possible steps forward.
https://spacenews.com/esa-suspends-work-wit...xomars-mission/ |
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#574
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 242 Joined: 28-October 12 Member No.: 6732 ![]() |
I am wondering, if the MAV gets too heavy, what is not unlikely, and thus the SFR would need its own dedicated lander, how realistic is it that it could share it's ride to the Martian surface with its older sister "Rosalind Franklin"?
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#575
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2520 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 ![]() |
MSR has enough problems as it is. And I'm not sure what the point of sending another rover to the same site would be.
-------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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#576
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Solar System Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10196 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 ![]() |
Since we will not be seeing ExoMars at Oxia Planum any time soon, if ever, the map I made in preparation for landing will not be needed here. But I will share it anyway.
The names of regions and features (taken from provinces and towns/cities of the Roman Empire at its greatest extent, from Scotland to Egypt) are from this paper: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.108...47.2021.1982035 The landing would be expected in the central portion, on or around Dalmatia Planum. EDIT: replaced map with a corrected version a few hours after posting. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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#577
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It seems they are really zealous to turn ExoMars into a nerve-wracking hard-sf/suspense/thriller/horror story.
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#578
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1276 Joined: 25-November 04 Member No.: 114 ![]() |
^ How so?
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#579
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2520 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 ![]() |
According to the tweets, ESA was going to announce a path forward for Exomars with NASA participation, and that briefing has been delayed. I wasn't able to find any reporting on this other than Twitter, though, so I would view this all with some skepticism.
-------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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#580
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 291 Joined: 29-December 05 From: Ottawa, ON Member No.: 624 ![]() |
Perhaps the way forward for ExoMars is to look at commercial services. See news release in link.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/07/rel...s-in-late-2024/ |
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I wasn't able to find any reporting on this other than Twitter, though, so I would view this all with some skepticism. ESA's press release (also linked in the original tweet) about the cancelled press briefing and delay of further discussions on the Mars exploration programme to November's Ministerial Council. By the way, ESA's fast-track industrial study to better define ExoMars options should be available by now. |
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#582
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 242 Joined: 28-October 12 Member No.: 6732 ![]() |
Gosh, this is a little bit unneighbourly, isn't it?
QUOTE Contributions to the Rosalind Franklin ExoMars rover. — The recommendation does not support the requested funding for the Rosalind Franklin ExoMars rover.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1585 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Vermont Member No.: 530 ![]() |
That's not bipartisan or the actual 2024 budget until a lot more happens.
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 706 Joined: 22-April 05 Member No.: 351 ![]() |
That's not bipartisan or the actual 2024 budget until a lot more happens. This seems to have been a complete surprise, and I haven't seen any speculation as to the motivation. As stevesliva says, still many steps ahead. -------------------- |
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#585
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 3-February 20 From: Paris (France) Member No.: 8747 ![]() |
Hi, there,
Why not after all ? ![]() We're only a few years away https://www.thalesaleniaspace.com/en/press-...es-exomars-2028 |
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