MSL at Rocknest, First scoop samples - sols 57-101 |
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 Nov 4 2012, 01:34 AM
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It's just cosmetic; as long as the main structure is intact they're not gonna impact driving, very much. This is a heavy rover; it stands to reason that even small rocks will leave dents.
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Nov 4 2012, 04:49 AM
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Nov 4 2012, 04:50 AM
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QUOTE (abalone @ Nov 3 2012, 04:01 PM)  will the wheels fall off before then??? No - they will be absolutely fine. They'll be dented and dinged and have holes in them...and they're carry on working just fine. |
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Nov 4 2012, 11:28 PM
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Interesting finding. This is a new bright objects?
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/ms...0000E2_DXXX.jpg
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Nov 5 2012, 02:55 AM
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The mission team has said that it is likely that they will find more flotsam from the rover and EDL event.
Not inconceivable that these are more of the same. The entire surface is amazing of course, not just the bright bits 
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Nov 5 2012, 05:51 AM
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Colored ChemCam
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Nov 5 2012, 11:20 AM
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When you look carefully at some sky images taken on Sol 86, some bright pixels are visible...
Any ideas by some astronomers on the Forum ? Stars ? Planets ? "Schmurtzes" ?... http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/ms...0000C0_DXXX.jpg
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Nov 5 2012, 12:19 PM
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Hot pixels...?
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Nov 5 2012, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE (Zelenyikot @ Nov 5 2012, 12:51 AM) Colored ChemCam Very nice, looks like olivine in the third one. |
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Nov 5 2012, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE (vikingmars @ Nov 5 2012, 06:20 AM) When you look carefully at some sky images taken on Sol 86, some bright pixels are visible... Any ideas by some astronomers on the Forum ? Stars ? Planets ? "Schmurtzes" ?... http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/ms...0000C0_DXXX.jpg
Looks like a pan of the sky at five o'clock at night and they appear to be in the same place on different photos. |
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Nov 5 2012, 02:09 PM
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Image chip pixels can fail in at least two ways-- including go black or go white. So you can have black or white "Schmurtzes"
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Nov 5 2012, 02:22 PM
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A cosmetic blemish visible in a flat image need not be a pixel that has "failed". I haven't looked in detail at the stuff on the detector (schmutz)--some may be only partially opaque, and thus correctable. Hungry4info is right about the bright spots--they are mostly hot pixels. There could be some cosmic- (or RTG-) rays, but I didn't see any obvious ones. Hot pixels may be unrecoverable, when the generate signal so fast that they saturate almost any useful exposure. But most are fine, just something to calibrate. And most of the ones shown get lost in images of high-entropy scenes.
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Nov 5 2012, 04:46 PM
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Color from the raw Mast camera images. Perhaps too much green.
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Nov 5 2012, 04:53 PM
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Also, watch out for the optical illusion that a gray material will look green when surrounded by a red material. I checked the RGB values of that "green" material and it's actually brown or orange (R and G roughly equal but R always greater than G, much lower blue), it just looks green by comparison to the bright red dust. I would not recommend attempting to determine mineralogy from Mastcam photos. You can tell dust-covered surfaces (red) from less dusty surfaces (gray, blue, or green-looking), and you should be surprised by stuff that looks white. Some rocks appear to have different colors when compared to each other, but that's about as far as I'd go in interpreting color. I would certainly not guess at mineralogy.
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Nov 5 2012, 07:17 PM
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Zelenyikot
yes but ChemCam doesn't do color. You just make it look like it does. So the amount of green depended on you're method which would reflect on the reason for making it, which just so happens to fill a void . So do you think it's olivine? |
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