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 Aug 25 2005, 11:22 AM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4180840.stm
Europe has fixed on a concept for its next mission to land on the Red Planet. It aims to send a single robot rover to the Martian surface along with another, stationary, science package. |
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Aug 25 2005, 01:21 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 290 Joined: 26-March 04 From: Edam, The Netherlands Member No.: 65 |
They want to land that rover so badly......(which in understand). But:
American datatransportation, american payload (in return for that) and american EDL gear (probably to make sure that it's going to work). Seems they don't have so much faith in designing their own vehicle  There's nothing wrong with working together, but it's not giving me a feeling of an organisation that is very self confident......
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Aug 25 2005, 01:39 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14448 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
And why the american data realy - is MEX expected to give up in the near future?
America wont supply an EDl system - ITAR makes sure of that. Doug |
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Aug 25 2005, 01:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 290 Joined: 26-March 04 From: Edam, The Netherlands Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 25 2005, 01:39 PM) And why the american data realy - is MEX expected to give up in the near future? America wont supply an EDl system - ITAR makes sure of that. Doug  They probably don't want to rely just on MEX, because IF it fails before 2013 (which is a long time from now), they have no orbiting european hardware left, and DTE is not a option offcourse by that time, considering the produced datavolume of such a craft..... You're right about ITAR.....but they WANT the american EDL system, as is written in the article..... Anyway.....the more rovers up there, the better. But it would be better to allocate the money for, let's say, 2, 3 or even 4 sojouner type of vehicles (with moles and streaming video on its mast, maybe even brought there by the same (1 or 2) launcher. Equip them with tiny little sweet RTG's and there you go. But that's my idea..... |
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Aug 25 2005, 02:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1636 Joined: 9-May 05 From: Lima, Peru Member No.: 385 |
What is MEX? I haven't heard of it. Will be glad to be acquainted of it?
Rodolfo 
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Aug 25 2005, 02:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 290 Joined: 26-March 04 From: Edam, The Netherlands Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Aug 25 2005, 02:43 PM) What is MEX? I haven't heard of it. Will be glad to be acquainted of it? Rodolfo Mars Express. The ESA orbiter. http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/ |
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Aug 25 2005, 02:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1636 Joined: 9-May 05 From: Lima, Peru Member No.: 385 |
Ooppss, it is a smart word!
Thanks Marcel. 
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Aug 25 2005, 02:56 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14448 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
One thing space isnt short of it's Acronyms
MEX, MGS, MODY, MRO, MER, MSL...it's madness Doug |
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Aug 25 2005, 02:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 290 Joined: 26-March 04 From: Edam, The Netherlands Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 25 2005, 02:56 PM) One thing space isnt short of it's Acronyms MEX, MGS, MODY, MRO, MER, MSL...it's madness Doug And you seem to be the specialist.... Euh, what's MODY ? |
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Aug 25 2005, 02:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1636 Joined: 9-May 05 From: Lima, Peru Member No.: 385 |
QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 25 2005, 09:56 AM) One thing space isnt short of it's Acronyms MEX, MGS, MODY, MRO, MER, MSL...it's madness Doug Yes, indeed inclusive for any kitchen cheff won't be able to figure them out! Rodolfo |
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Aug 25 2005, 02:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 290 Joined: 26-March 04 From: Edam, The Netherlands Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (Marcel @ Aug 25 2005, 02:58 PM) And you seem to be the specialist.... Euh, what's MODY ? Ah, now i remember.... |
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Aug 25 2005, 03:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 153 Joined: 11-December 04 Member No.: 120 |
From the article:
QUOTE a mass of 120kg for the rover and 8-14kg for the science payload That's a lot of balsa wood! But I wonder how much drilling you can get out of that? A MER rover is 185 kg. and is totally geology dedicated. Is it possible to build a life detection system in 8-14 kg. ???? |
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Aug 25 2005, 03:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1636 Joined: 9-May 05 From: Lima, Peru Member No.: 385 |
QUOTE (Cugel @ Aug 25 2005, 10:13 AM) From the article: That's a lot of balsa wood! But I wonder how much drilling you can get out of that? A MER rover is 185 kg. and is totally geology dedicated. Is it possible to build a life detection system in 8-14 kg. ???? Besides, the rover has only 4 wheels instead of 6 wheels. I am affraid that it will need purified sands on all parts...  Rodolfo |
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Aug 25 2005, 03:25 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14448 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
A straight copy of the Beagle 2 science payload wouldnt be a bad move - given time to test and calibrate it all properly.
Doug |
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Aug 25 2005, 04:12 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14448 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
Oh MODY - some call it MO2k1- Mars Odyssey
Doug |
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