Mission: Hayabusa 2 |
Mission: Hayabusa 2 |
Nov 29 2014, 02:22 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 78 Joined: 20-September 14 Member No.: 7261 |
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Nov 30 2014, 12:18 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2082 Joined: 13-February 10 From: Ontario Member No.: 5221 |
Good updated summary of the mission's early hours:
http://www.spaceflight101.com/hayabusa-2-m...on-updates.html Also a reminder near the bottom that there's more than just Hayabusa 2 being launched: a separate probe for a few flybys of other asteroids, a student-built technology demonstration, and an art project are all launching together! Is this the first time multiple craft are being launched on interplanetary missions from a single launcher? Or is there some other precedent our resident space historians recall? |
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Nov 30 2014, 12:25 AM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
Well, JAXA's already done that with Akatsuki and IKAROS.
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Nov 30 2014, 12:35 AM
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#139
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Member Group: Members Posts: 817 Joined: 17-April 10 From: Kamakura, Japan Member No.: 5323 |
Those approximately 1900 yottagramm of iron beneath our feet would disagree with you there. Thank you. Yes, I should not be going too far back in time under this category here. It is the festive season affectimg me, I think. However, I would like to believe that there are non recycled metals still left over from the early formation of our solar system and that metalic objects are out there somewhere, formed not just from mantle stripping. P |
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Nov 30 2014, 08:33 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1729 Joined: 3-August 06 From: 43° 35' 53" N 1° 26' 35" E Member No.: 1004 |
Is this the first time multiple craft are being launched on interplanetary missions from a single launcher? Or is there some other precedent our resident space historians recall? I think the first time multiple spacecraft were injected in independent, solar orbits with a single launch (via Moon flybys) was STEREO-A and -B in 2006. Akatsuki, IKAROS and Shin-en followed in 2010. Of course there are a lot of other instances where multiple spacecraft (typically lander+orbiter) separated at the target. |
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Nov 30 2014, 08:39 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1729 Joined: 3-August 06 From: 43° 35' 53" N 1° 26' 35" E Member No.: 1004 |
by the way, launch is now postponed to December 3, 4:22:04 UTC
http://global.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/hayabusa2/index.html |
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Nov 30 2014, 09:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 495 Joined: 12-February 12 Member No.: 6336 |
However, I would like to believe that there are non recycled metals still left over from the early formation of our solar system and that metalic objects are out there somewhere, formed not just from mantle stripping. P Hello there pandaneko Well our current thinking is that nearly all materials that makes up the planets, moons and asteroids originated in a supernova long ago and got very much processed in the early accretion disk and subsequent collisions between objects both large and small. So most materials is thought to have been quite reprocessed in the early age of the solar system. The Sun have contributed very little, like the helium on the surface of the Moon. You might get your wish for metallic objects though, if you don't mind the size, meaning interstellar dust grains. |
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Dec 1 2014, 07:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2082 Joined: 13-February 10 From: Ontario Member No.: 5221 |
What are the plans for giving 1999 JU3 to eventually get a 'real' name, like Bennu did? Haven't heard anything about a contest yet..
Edit: good news, looks like the LIPOVITAN-D tradition is alive and well: https://twitter.com/ots_min/status/53966746...5866624/photo/1 |
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Dec 2 2014, 12:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 817 Joined: 17-April 10 From: Kamakura, Japan Member No.: 5323 |
very much processed in the early accretion disk and subsequent collisions between objects both large and small. You might get your wish for metallic objects though, if you don't mind the size, meaning interstellar dust grains. Thank you. This is really sinking into me, particularly "early processing" bit. I wonder then if new arrivals are either too energetic to be caught by our solar system, or our solar system is now too transparent (probably same thing?) for them to accumulate here to form anything larger than grains? Thank you, anyway. On a seperate matter, because I started my thinking about the teeth I now wish to go back there. One of the advantages of being an amateur is wild imagination, I think, particularly in view of the festive season. If evidence for water has been found then there must be water on that asteroid. On the other hand it is difficult to imagine that there are ponds of 20m, 30m across on a small 900m asteroid. My guess is that the asteroid is covered by frost (not smooth ice), all over. No loose pebbles or anything of that kind. I want to see the pictures!!! P |
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Dec 3 2014, 04:15 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Launch coverage now live via spaceflightnow.com. Per my wife's translation, weather conditions are good, no equipment issues. T minus 8 min.
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Dec 3 2014, 04:22 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 14-April 06 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 745 |
Go Hayabusa 2!!
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Dec 3 2014, 04:30 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
First stage cutoff & separation, second stage ignition. Looking good thus far.
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Dec 3 2014, 05:07 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
DSN Now should have AOS later.... 4 antennas are ready and waiting for it
http://eyes.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.html |
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Dec 3 2014, 05:17 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Doug, if I'm reading Eyes right, is DSS 24 currently in listen mode for AOS?
EDIT: Correction: It looks like DSS 15 is receiving downlink! -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Dec 3 2014, 05:20 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
24, 25, 45 and 34 are all waiting for Hayabusa 2
From what I can see in the extended details - they're all ready to listen at 8.426 Ghz (X-Band) with I think 16kbps downlink and and 34 & 45 ready to uplink at 15.6 bps. (15 is currently getting data from GeoTail, 43 Rosetta and 35 MRO and Mars Odyssey - updates are every 5 seconds) |
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