No russian spaceship to the Moon until 2027 ... |
No russian spaceship to the Moon until 2027 ... |
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Aug 31 2007, 07:27 PM
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according to the last information at roscosmos.ru
Russia now officially targeting 2027 for her first manned mission to the moon surface |
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Aug 31 2007, 07:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2920 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
according to the last information at roscosmos.ru Russia now officially targeting 2027 for her first manned mission to the moon surface Still ahead of ... the Fidjian -------------------- |
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Aug 31 2007, 10:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3419 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Member No.: 15 |
At the rate this is going, the Dutchy of Grand Fenwick will be the next sovereign nation to land humans on the Moon...
-the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Sep 1 2007, 12:52 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Heh, heh...nice reference! From the novel, IIRC: "Great Godfrey! A six-story El Russo cigar!..."
Not good news, though. Still, think that China or Japan might just surprise us....we should at least see a return to the Moon in our lifetimes, but frankly I've about given up on Mars... -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Sep 1 2007, 01:10 AM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10153 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
It's not clear to me that this is anything but an expression of interest in such a mission. Is there anything to suggest that the program is supported in the Kremlin? Or funded in any way? There is a history here of promoting ideas that never go on to attract support and funding.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Sep 1 2007, 01:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
One fine Saturday afternoon in April 2027:
Russian craft you are cleared for touchdown on Landing Pad 5D. Welcome to the Rutan City Lunar Landing Port. Remember to cut your thrusters when you see the flashing red cutoff light on landing tower 44. Please direct your personnel to disembark at 13:34:15. A shuttle rover will take you to the Branson Hyatt where we have arranged for VIP accommodations. You are also invited to dine this evening as the honored guests of Governor Melville. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Sep 1 2007, 05:06 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Heh, heh...like it, EGD!
Not to drop names, but I actually saw Richard Branson up close a few weeks ago @ LAX; he was in a hurry, obviously not in a mood to chat. If I get a more favorable face-time opportunity in the future, definitely gonna pitch "Virgin Luna" to him! -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Sep 1 2007, 07:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1870 Joined: 20-February 05 Member No.: 174 |
......But what about the Bobolinks?......
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Sep 2 2007, 04:49 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
Russia now officially targeting 2027 for her first manned mission to the moon surface Portuguese WILL do it better... -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
Edgar Alan Poe |
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Sep 2 2007, 06:09 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
I believe it! You got a scoop for us, ustrax?
Seriously though, the 800-lbs. gorilla in the room for all this is the fact that nobody has yet devised a cost-effective and reliable way to boost into LEO. Going to the Moon isn't that demanding in terms of delta-V; the hard part is getting off the ground. Just for fun the other day (okay, honesty...in order to delay working on my @#$% thesis) I surfed the Delta IV heavy. Was amazed to learn that the RS-68 used on it is the first newly developed liquid-fueled engine in the US of this class since the Space Shuttle main engines!!! -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Sep 3 2007, 09:42 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 593 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 279 |
2027? SpaceDaily says 2025.
Mind you, they also say: QUOTE The only moon landing in history is NASA's Apollo expedition in 1968. Which has to be one of the worst quotes I've ever seen in an supposedly reputable news release. Andy |
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Sep 3 2007, 11:38 AM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10153 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
I think that was just lifted from another source. But it's a terrible mistake, as you say. The difference in dates comes from the fact that this is not a real funded program, but a mere suggestion.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Sep 4 2007, 12:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3419 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Member No.: 15 |
Just for the record, and yes, I'm sure everyone here knows this, but the "correct" way to phrase it would be:
NASA's Apollo program launched seven expeditions with the goal of landing humans on the Moon between July, 1969 and December, 1972. Of these, six succeeded. Two missions each landed on the Moon in 1969, 1971 and 1972. The only mission launched to the Moon in 1970 failed to land. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Guest_Zvezdichko_* |
Sep 4 2007, 10:37 AM
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Imo Russia now has the capabilities of launching at least Moon orbiting mission. Soyuz was designed as a moon vehicle and it's ready to operate in Moon Orbit. You only need a Proton rocket launching an Earth Departure Stage, a Soyuz launch and that's it.
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Sep 4 2007, 10:49 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 8-November 05 From: Australia Member No.: 547 |
Yep, but two essential resources are sadly lacking: money and political will...
At least in Soviet times they had plenty of the latter if not the former. These days, regardless of a national ecomony flushed with petro-rubles, the Russian program seems to have neither. A sad state of affairs. |
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