IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

10 Pages V  « < 4 5 6 7 8 > »   
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Huge comet outburst reported, 17P/Holmes
elakdawalla
post Oct 30 2007, 06:58 PM
Post #76


Administrator
****

Group: Admin
Posts: 5172
Joined: 4-August 05
From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth
Member No.: 454



Re: rover observations, Jim Bell says: "I don't think we can do it power-wise. Regardless, you're talking 55 arcsec pixels and a spherical blob without a tail... Hrm."

--Emily


--------------------
My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Stu
post Oct 30 2007, 07:18 PM
Post #77


The Poet Dude
****

Group: Moderator
Posts: 5551
Joined: 15-March 04
From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK
Member No.: 60



So that's a "no" then...? wink.gif


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
ugordan
post Oct 30 2007, 07:25 PM
Post #78


Senior Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3648
Joined: 1-October 05
From: Croatia
Member No.: 523



Still raining here, cloudy for over a week now. The comet might grow as big as the Moon for all the weather here cares...

*groan*


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
CAP-Team
post Oct 30 2007, 09:53 PM
Post #79


Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 146
Joined: 23-August 06
From: Vriezenveen, Netherlands
Member No.: 1067



The clouds went away, and finally after days we have a clear sky now in the Netherlands.

The comet is visible beautifully in the constellation Perseus, especially with binoculars.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
NMRguy
post Oct 30 2007, 09:55 PM
Post #80


Junior Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 98
Joined: 29-July 05
From: Amsterdam, NL
Member No.: 448



The Amsterdam skies finally relented and opened up for a few hours. I was surprised how easy it was to find Holmes, even in the light-polluted skies. It was visually much more diffuse than a star. Strange and beautiful.

If only I had my gear (that is still in storage back in the States...). Best of luck to the rest of you.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Adam
post Oct 30 2007, 11:07 PM
Post #81


Junior Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 61
Joined: 17-September 05
From: Sweden
Member No.: 499



I finally managed to see it too, found it easily and it looked spectacular through my telescope. As others have noted, some sort of tail-like feature is visible.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
ilbasso
post Oct 31 2007, 01:06 AM
Post #82


Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 753
Joined: 23-October 04
From: Greensboro, NC USA
Member No.: 103



oDoug, I wondered too about the collision/impact scenario. (Deep, DEEEEEEEP Impact!!) However, it's at a relatively high inclination from the plane of the ecliptic, which would somewhat reduce the probability of collision. Also, it's very interesting that Holmes displayed a similar outburst when it was discovered in 1892 and again in early 1893. Very strange object!


--------------------
Jonathan Ward
Manning the LCC at http://www.apollolaunchcontrol.com
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
dilo
post Oct 31 2007, 08:30 PM
Post #83


Senior Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2492
Joined: 15-January 05
From: center Italy
Member No.: 150



Two friends made a cool picture + spectrum of the comet from L'Aquila (Italy):
http://quasar.teoth.it/gallery/albums/user...17P_28ott07.jpg
Consider that, in reality, the external green halo is a lot less luminous than yellow one and image dynamic was somehow compressed in order to see it. The emission Hg row is due to terrestrial light pollution.
Image was published also by a german site dedicated to comets
I encouraged the friends to submit the picture to APOD and Spaceweather.


--------------------
I always think before posting! - Marco -
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
ngunn
post Oct 31 2007, 09:28 PM
Post #84


Senior Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3516
Joined: 4-November 05
From: North Wales
Member No.: 542



I've just been out for another superb view with binoculars and small birdwatching 'scope. To my eyes it now resembles a contour map of a conical mountain coloured in three distinct shades with relatively sharp boundaries along the 'contour lines'.

It continues ballooning (maybe in a series of pulses?) and remains just as bright. Amazing!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Paolo
post Nov 1 2007, 01:39 AM
Post #85


Senior Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 1729
Joined: 3-August 06
From: 43° 35' 53" N 1° 26' 35" E
Member No.: 1004



I just saw it for the first time! From my house some 10 km east of Milan, in one of the worst light pollution in Europe, the comet is plainly visible with the naked eye! And with binoculars it is a perfectly round green blob with hints of a structure. Unfortunately it was at the zenith at the time and it was quite difficult to keep observing for more than a few tens of seconds. I hope to see it again the next days using my 5 inch telescope.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Juramike
post Nov 1 2007, 02:41 AM
Post #86


Senior Member
****

Group: Moderator
Posts: 2785
Joined: 10-November 06
From: Pasadena, CA
Member No.: 1345



Sweet! At midnight local time it is just visible through the skylight in the upstairs bedroom.

I don't even have to go outside! tongue.gif


--------------------
Some higher resolution images available at my photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31678681@N07/
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
elakdawalla
post Nov 1 2007, 04:11 AM
Post #87


Administrator
****

Group: Admin
Posts: 5172
Joined: 4-August 05
From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth
Member No.: 454



Well, I finally saw it, it was quite easy to spot even in the intensely light-polluted sky of my neighborhood in the San Fernando Valley. And I could convince myself it was fuzzy, though pretty much everything in the sky looks fuzzy around here smile.gif I don't have binoculars, much less a telescope, so I couldn't confirm its color or appearance. And I don't know what Perseus is supposed to look like, so it didn't seem so odd to me to see a triangle there. But I strongly suspect that I will, from this day forward, recognize Perseus, as "that constellation that used to be a triangle when the comet was there." smile.gif

--Emily


--------------------
My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
lyford
post Nov 1 2007, 04:45 AM
Post #88


Senior Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 1281
Joined: 18-December 04
From: San Diego, CA
Member No.: 124



WOWZERS! Even in light pollution drenched San Diego it shines through. Simply gorgeous.


--------------------
Lyford Rome
"Zis is not nuts, zis is super-nuts!" Mathematician Richard Courant on viewing an Orion test
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Wayne Farmer
post Nov 1 2007, 04:58 AM
Post #89


Newbie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1
Joined: 31-October 07
From: Blaine, MN
Member No.: 3949



QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Oct 30 2007, 01:58 PM) *
Re: rover observations, Jim Bell says: "I don't think we can do it power-wise. Regardless, you're talking 55 arcsec pixels and a spherical blob without a tail... Hrm."

--Emily


Emily, what about imaging from other spacecraft? Comet 17C/Holmes' tail is pointed away from Earth and Mars, so it would be nice to view the tail from the side. Even if Cassini had enough resolution, I think the comet would be too close to the Sun for viewing from Saturn. Are there other options for imaging, such as Ulysses, or the various comet and asteriod intercept missions?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
djellison
post Nov 1 2007, 07:46 AM
Post #90


Founder
****

Group: Chairman
Posts: 14432
Joined: 8-February 04
Member No.: 1



Ulysses doesn't have any cameras.

NH and Cassini would be the only spacecraft worth having a go with, and even then I'm not sure the geometry is too good - and they'll just resolve little blobs - not much more than that.

Doug
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

10 Pages V  « < 4 5 6 7 8 > » 
Reply to this topicStart new topic

 



RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 27th April 2024 - 03:27 PM
RULES AND GUIDELINES
Please read the Forum Rules and Guidelines before posting.

IMAGE COPYRIGHT
Images posted on UnmannedSpaceflight.com may be copyrighted. Do not reproduce without permission. Read here for further information on space images and copyright.

OPINIONS AND MODERATION
Opinions expressed on UnmannedSpaceflight.com are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of UnmannedSpaceflight.com or The Planetary Society. The all-volunteer UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderation team is wholly independent of The Planetary Society. The Planetary Society has no influence over decisions made by the UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderators.
SUPPORT THE FORUM
Unmannedspaceflight.com is funded by the Planetary Society. Please consider supporting our work and many other projects by donating to the Society or becoming a member.