2 screenshot of my personal 3d reconstruction software
this is present "AE" site of spirit.
based on "XYL" et "RSL" NASA product et some algorithms.



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and a small video of my personal 3d software

Mars Rover Center Video

sorry for bad quality of video, but video file size it's a problem for me, i do'nt have big web space.

edit : sorry for private video setting it's public now

Interesting - and beside it on Youtube is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Ps7Wrcv58

Opportunity at Purgatory Dune.

Bob Shaw

I feel the need to use words that I would have to ban myself for...such as

Holy .... that's ........ amazing

Dare one mention words like release...sourceforge....public consumption...doug WANT

Doug

Doug:

Somehow, I thought your response would be like that, you 3-D geek, you!

Hehehe.

Bob Shaw

Very nice... please, tell more!

Sweet! Yes, that is very cool. Here's another interested taker if you want to share your program!

Seen only now... I have no words too!
Indian3000, very promising as first post!
Really, we want to know/see more!

If we were handing out scores for best first post this has definitely got to be up there. Amazing stuff Indian3000, really impressive.

I'm wondering if a parameter could be added to the code so that calculated surfaces that are within some number of degrees of being parallel to the line of sight could be rendered black or transparent.

LIke Zorro - he strikes...and he is gone.

Doug

i'm not gone,

I am just a little busy these last days

I prepare of anothers stuffs and a release of 3D site viewer

while waiting, you can downloader required them for the program


only free stuff.

the program is written in C# 2.0 with directX 9.

you need

in first, a graphic card with 32bits indexing surport,
my knowledge about this :
- Nvidia GForce 6, 7 and quadro can,
- GForce 4 can not
- I dont know for ATI, it is necessary to test.

personally I develope with a nvidia 7800GT, AMD X2 4200+ with 3x1Gig mem and 1.37 Tb of disk
Yes-yes "MER" stuffs takes place on the discs and a little band-width


.NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package
http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframework/dow...es/default.aspx
last version of directX 9.0c
here
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.mspx
or on recent game ( or demo game ) cd
and SQL Server 2005 Express Edition
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/sql/download/
only the 53.8 MB file and anything else ( if you want, you can but it's not necessary )


for datas :

on PDS site take in navcam data directory *XYL*.IMG (in general 12Mb file) product and *RSL*.IMG( 2Mb file )

link:
http://pdsimg.jpl.nasa.gov/data/mer/mer1no_0xxx/data/
http://pdsimg.jpl.nasa.gov/data/mer/mer2no_0xxx/data/

you can use *RSL*.IMG.jpg file in browse directory, only RSL not XYL in browse directory, generally file size if 200kb, but I prefer RSL product in data direcotry.

my example uses the following files :

site "AE00"
2n178037159xylae00p0695l0m1.img 2n178037159rslae00p0695l0m1.img.jpg
2n178037195xylae00p0695l0m1.img 2n178037195rslae00p0695l0m1.img.jpg
2n178037282xylae00p0695l0m1.img 2n178037282rslae00p0695l0m1.img.jpg
2n178037333xylae00p0695l0m1.img 2n178037333rslae00p0695l0m1.img.jpg
2n178037431xylae00p0695l0m1.img 2n178037431rslae00p0695l0m1.img.jpg
2n178037631xylae00p0795l0m1.img 2n178037631rslae00p0795l0m1.img.jpg
2n178037831xylae00p0795l0m1.img 2n178037831rslae00p0795l0m1.img.jpg
2n178038024xylae00p0795l0m1.img 2n178038024rslae00p0795l0m1.img.jpg
2n178038204xylae00p0795l0m1.img 2n178038204rslae00p0795l0m1.img.jpg
2n178038412xylae00p0795l0m1.img 2n178038412rslae00p0795l0m1.img.jpg


site "AE93"
2n178659474xylae93p0695l0m1.img 2n178659474rslae93p0695l0m1.img
2n178659546xylae93p0695l0m1.img 2n178659546rslae93p0695l0m1.img
2n178659596xylae93p0695l0m1.img 2n178659596rslae93p0695l0m1.img
2n178659646xylae93p0695l0m1.img 2n178659646rslae93p0695l0m1.img
2n178659697xylae93p0695l0m1.img 2n178659697rslae93p0695l0m1.img
2n178659834xylae93p1895l0m1.img 2n178659834rslae93p1895l0m1.img
2n178660053xylae93p1895l0m1.img 2n178660053rslae93p1895l0m1.img
2n178660273xylae93p1895l0m1.img 2n178660273rslae93p1895l0m1.img
2n178660459xylae93p1895l0m1.img 2n178660459rslae93p1895l0m1.img
2n178660670xylae93p1895l0m1.img 2n178660670rslae93p1895l0m1.img

site "AEVO"
2n182025191xylaevop1640l0m1.img 2n182025191rslaevop1640l0m1.img.jpg
2n182025263xylaevop1640l0m1.img 2n182025263rslaevop1640l0m1.img.jpg
2n182025299xylaevop1640l0m1.img 2n182025299rslaevop1640l0m1.img.jpg
2n182025351xylaevop1640l0m1.img 2n182025351rslaevop1640l0m1.img.jpg
2n182025403xylaevop1640l0m1.img 2n182025403rslaevop1640l0m1.img.jpg
2n182025567xylaevop1640l0m1.img 2n182025567rslaevop1640l0m1.img.jpg
2n182025736xylaevop1640l0m1.img 2n182025736rslaevop1640l0m1.img.jpg
2n182025897xylaevop1640l0m1.img 2n182025897rslaevop1640l0m1.img.jpg
2n182026063xylaevop1640l0m1.img 2n182026063rslaevop1640l0m1.img.jpg
2n182026224xylaevop1640l0m1.img 2n182026224rslaevop1640l0m1.img.jpg


for the path ( white line ) et reference possition ( Red-Green-Blue line ) in use
Rover Motion Counter Data on
http://pds-geosciences.wustl.edu/geodata/m...g-6-rmc-ops-v1/
http://pds-geosciences.wustl.edu/geodata/m...g-6-rmc-ops-v1/

caution some datas are bad in this file, they need to be filter

ok, i work on release now ...
give me some time to complete and make a user friend ly interface

i thinks some days.

I do not withdraw the idea to still make some screenshots before the release.


ha, another thing, I am French (Belgium-Brussels precisely) and I use has automatic translator from time to time… afflicts for the English fault.

Panic not - my co-admin Nico (Nix) is from Belgium as well ( Ghent )

I'm not sure how far you're thinking of taking all this - but the ability to export to a common 3D format ( )would be a hugely exciting feature

Doug

yes, for the moment I use a format has me, but I already have in my project the fact of saving the mesh in file with the directX format '. X ', 3ds max and others commons can open this format with a simple existing plug-in

opporunity on fram

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and two video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLtsKgmuJzc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjnMRXCJRAc

I've been quietly watching this topic since Indian3000 started it. I guess we all are waiting to see where this goes.

Talk about something coming in from "out of the blue." (second & third definitions)

Indian3000, you have our undivided attention.

edited to add... P.S. This is just the kind of thing we need to entertain us on these long and cold winter nights.

Amazing stuff Indian

I'm looking forward to 'play' !

I suppose you couldn't pay me a visit and learn me all this stuff over an afternoon?

Nico

if you have plan on Brussels it is with pleasure

Cool. I'll be in touch It's been a while since I was in Brussels..

Do you know, by any chance Paul Vauterin? He's into 3-D modeling as well, made a presentation of the solar system open to visitors here at the observatory in Ghent.

Nico

First Release

please do'nt forget to read my preceding post on installation

.NET 2.0, SQLServer 2005 Express Edition, and direct 9.0c

installation
juste unzip file in one directory
launch "MarsRoverCenter3DSiteViewer.exe"

download XYL and RSL product and put it in same directory ( one directory by ROVER/SITE )

Using
click NEW 3d site
click add file only XYL product, Software autodetect RSL file in same directory
Click View and wait some time ( if the MESH file is not found, software generate it, if he found it, he load the last ... )

keys in 3d world are
left,right, up, down arrows for Rotation
Shift + arrows for Pan
F4 : WireFrame / Solid Draw
wheel : zoom



caution
- no site mix
- you can mix drive on same site
- in first time not load over 30 XYL, try before with 1 .. 2 .. 4 .. 10 XYL.
- use navcam XYL in first time.
- 32 bits graphic card requis.( see my post about this )


please give my a feedback ( if success or fail, give me the graphic card model )

a small tutorial come in little time

once again it's alpha alpha alpha software

good luck and have fun

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unfortunately, I do not know him

addition of the color .... true color



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Radiometrically calibrated color come from

http://www.lyle.org/~markoff/

site AEOP for navcam data
site AENL for pancam data

Really impressive work. I have this fantasy of someday putting on a VR headset and going for a walk on Mars... and this is taking us in that direction very nicely

My jaw is hanging down to the floor!! Wow, Indian3000, that is an absolutely incredible program. I'll look forward to your tutorial to see if I can handle this baby.

Can't wait for some more of your examples!

algorimancer -I was thinking exactly the same thing

superb Indian!

Nico

I too am very impressed by the 3d videos. Should "Farm" be "Fram"?

The screenshots really are impressive! I tried downloading everything and running it; on my first attempt to create a new site I get the following error:



Looks like you missed a hardcoded filename? Or did I do something wrong?

yes, it is my fault, .mdf file is hardcode some where … I correct

i thing it's ok now ,just unzip file over the old

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Okay, now I get as far as generating a site and being able to move around, but I only see the wire frame path and no images. Does this mean my graphics card isn't good enough? Or am I missing something else?
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Indian3000: I am having problems getting your software to run. When I try to execute MarsRoverCenter3DSiteViewer.exe, I get an error message saying "MarsRoverCenter3DSiteViewer has encountered a problem and needs to close."

This occurs with both versions you have posted. My operating system is Windows XP Pro SP2, running on a machine very similar to yours: AMD X2 4800, 2 GB memory, NVIDIA 7900GT. I have DX 9.0c, and have installed the .NET and Microsoft SQL Server Express, using the default options. Do you have any suggestions?

yes it's your graphics card, but 2 goods news for you, SQL server, .NET and directx work fine
and i work on version without 32bits vertex index, and this problem will disparaitra. I have needs to do a little change in the code.





Which version of .NET you took
x86, x64 or IA64 ... ?

you must have something like this

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a version without index buffer, normaly, the 32bits index limitation is avoid, but i need someone test.

Is it just me or do all the lbl's work but noneo f the rvf's work here
http://pds-geosciences.wustl.edu/geodata/m...r2rm_0xxx/data/

Doug

I does not understand very well what you want to say, but if is to use my 3DViewer, file RVF and SVF are to already charged and treated in the database mdf.

i know some probleme on inter-site data file ( svf ) but i think is in my traitment i forget a parameter.
but all reference on same site are correct ... juste a problem on inter-site ...

What I mean is - the files are unavailable...I try and save one and it's not found....but I remember them all being available a few months ago (as I was looking at them w.r.t. putting together the mobility report maps)

Doug

ha ok, unavailable for me too by web, you can try by ftp,

ftp://pds-geosciences.wustl.edu/mer1-m-en...v1/mer1rm_0xxx/
ftp://pds-geosciences.wustl.edu/mer2-m-en...v1/mer2rm_0xxx/

Bingo That works!

Doug

Thank you for you help. I took the x86 version. I thought that was correct, since my CPU is 64 bit, but my operating system is 32 bit. Should I use a different one?

no, you have the good one, what you say is correct.


,

launch My HelloWorld, if that does not function, you have a problem with .NET 2.0

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launch My DirectXHelloWorld, if that does not function, you have a problem with Managed DirectX 9 lib.

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for directX you need some thing like that in you C:\Windows\assembly\ directory

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give me a feed back

Thank you. I will try these tests tonight.

Hmmm... now I'm seeing other problems with the R3 version. Starting over from a clean directory, when I try to create a new site I get:


Installed on top of the previous version, trying to load a file with a mesh already generated, I get:


Trying to create a site with a new file for which no mesh was previously generated, I get:


Thanks for your work to share this with us!

Indian3000: Thank you for your help. You are a genius. Those easy tests quickly identified a problem with DirectX. I installed an update and your software is now working well.

As proof, here is a screen shot from an Opportunity site. Downloading all of the data files is rather tedious, and apparently I missed one of the RSLs for this site. Hence, the missing wedge. Now that it is working I will find a more interesting area and teach myself to add multiple sites. I am guessing that I can do that if I put each site in a separate directory.

I still can't believe it actually works - must be some witchcraft involved!

Please, cosmic and indian and all who get this working - post screenshot after screenshot for those of use forced to live vicariously through your efforts. Simply beautiful.

i'm happy for you

but currently, the rules for site mix is as follows, you can load in one time all XYL for the same site

example : you can load All site 'AE' -> 'AE00', 'AE93', 'AEVO', 'AE..' ( is good )
but no 'AE' with 'AD' -> 'AE00', 'AD00' ( it's bad )

but i work on different Site loading ( not "drive", different "drive" work ), i just have a problem with "inter-site" computing, i have a table for this but some "inter-site" data are bad currently.. but this stuff come, quickly, I hope




tfisher :

forget the version R1 it is bad.

i thing with release R3 you try to load a XYL file without RSL. and you receive a FileNotFound Exception.

What would be good is to be able to present the mobility traces without any wedges at all - I know it might seem odd, but I'd like it

Doug

but you can do

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you can show/hide wedges with check boxe 1 et 3 ( view screenshot in attach ) and with zone 2 you can change offset loaded path

example :

you load wedge in site "60" with path offset 2 ( by default ), path of site ("58","59","60","61","62" ) are loaded, put "200" or upper, and all path are loaded ...

I do not know if I am very clear, but with this, you can view all opportunity or spirit path in 3D without wedge ...

i have in may plan to add a label on path for more for more clearness.

Ahh - so Path offset is the number of site's of mobility data that are shown before and after the site or sites you've added! I was trying to think of a word to describe it - but I can't

One thing - have you tried some of the XYL's and RSL's from Sol 1? The ones that are only 256 x 256....it just crashes when attempting to add the file for me.

Doug

have you the filename of XYL who causes the crash ?

Mmm, site 62TO?
Navcams taken mid-drive on sol 617 just approaching what we called the "Four Lane".

Tesheiner: I don't remember the site ID, but it was from sol 617. The fact that you recognized it in that unlabeled image simply blows my mind.